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Where from the characters or story of Adam and Eve did Torah copy from?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The latest research tells us:

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most recent common ancestor of men, called Adam, lived almost 120,000 years ago, and chances are that he did not meet or interact with Eve, who lived around 99,000 to 148,000 years ago, a new research indicates.

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most pertinent question therefore would be; where did Jewish Bible or Torah get the story of Adam and Eve from?

Where from it copied?

Regards
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Where from the characters or story of Adam and Eve did Torah copy from?

No not copied, PLAGIARIZED.


Some guy is said to go in a cave and come out with a bible in a different language with many passages do not even make any sense, no matter how they are translated, and everyone on the outside of the cave, already knew all the stories in the bible as it was common knowledge.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
The latest research tells us:

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most recent common ancestor of men, called Adam, lived almost 120,000 years ago, and chances are that he did not meet or interact with Eve, who lived around 99,000 to 148,000 years ago, a new research indicates.

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most pertinent question therefore would be; where did Jewish Bible or Torah get the story of Adam and Eve from?

Where from it copied?

Regards

If there was an early man and he reproduced, wouldn't he have had some kind of mate? Am I missing something?

The story was most likely symbolic. It most likely started out as a oral tradition passed on and on until someone decided to write it down. I have a feeling a lot of stories were like that.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
If there was an early man and he reproduced, wouldn't he have had some kind of mate? Am I missing something?

The story was most likely symbolic. It most likely started out as a oral tradition passed on and on until someone decided to write it down. I have a feeling a lot of stories were like that.

he is trying to discredit the bible.

It is typical islamic hatred of biblical text. They all think it is corrupt.

Islamic view of the Christian Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Islamic view of the Christian Bible is based on the belief that the Bible is revelation from God that became distorted or corrupted


Which is ironic being they PLAGIARIZED the bible. To them, only theirs is the correct version. Which is ironic because the kill each other over interpretation of their own text. So the same people that claim it is not corrupt, canot even agree what the heck it even says.
What I am starting to learn about many that follow this, is that they are all fundementalist, who refuse to reason this aspect of plagiarism.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If there was an early man and he reproduced, wouldn't he have had some kind of mate? Am I missing something?

The story was most likely symbolic. It most likely started out as a oral tradition passed on and on until someone decided to write it down. I have a feeling a lot of stories were like that.

You mean Torah copied from the folklore? But from which people?

Regards
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
If there was an early man and he reproduced, wouldn't he have had some kind of mate? Am I missing something?

The story was most likely symbolic. It most likely started out as a oral tradition passed on and on until someone decided to write it down. I have a feeling a lot of stories were like that.
The scientific "Adam" and "Eve" are the tracing of a genetic lineage to one individual. That individual did not live alone.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The scientific "Adam" and "Eve" are the tracing of a genetic lineage to one individual. That individual did not live alone.

Thak you.

Exactly.

It is not the mythology OP ment to use, and did form ignorance on the topic he is debating.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Torah copied from the folklore? But from which people?

Regards

Plagiarized is the right word, not copied, your hatred of others beliefs, would have guided you to said information.

But it does not exist as "copied", but does as influenced or plagiarized, from Mesopotamian sources.

But the same historical methodology, stated your religion PLAGIARIZED the bible as well.


Your using a double standard, and its obvious. :facepalm:
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
The scientific "Adam" and "Eve" are the tracing of a genetic lineage to one individual. That individual did not live alone.

I understand that. What I am questioning that if there was a scientific "Adam" then would the woman he reproduced with be the "Eve" and not some other female? Of course, my question is moot since I believe in the symbolism of a lot of the stories of Genesis.

I believe these stories might have started in the same place and as people migrated the stories went them: "Branched out", so to speak. And they probably had some minor or even major changes. I've heard more than one type of "Adam and Eve" story and while they are similar, they are not the same.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The latest research tells us:

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most recent common ancestor of men, called Adam, lived almost 120,000 years ago, and chances are that he did not meet or interact with Eve, who lived around 99,000 to 148,000 years ago, a new research indicates.

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most pertinent question therefore would be; where did Jewish Bible or Torah get the story of Adam and Eve from?

Where from it copied?

Regards
I'm not sure why they keep calling the last male-line common ancestor "Y chromosomal Adam", when the proper Biblical analogy would be Noah, not Adam.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The most pertinent question therefore would be; where did Jewish Bible or Torah get the story of Adam and Eve from?

Where from it copied?

I understand that Torah scribes got it from the Egyptians.

“Domain of Man” by Charles N. Pope

“In the mythology of ancient Egypt, the god who arrived first on the Earth was called Atum, signifying "Totality." Atum, as with Biblical Adam, was naked and required a civilizing influence. "The loincloth given to Atum served less to clothe him, in the strict sense of the word, than to permit him to manifest his royalty by means of a specific garment."a One cannot help but compare the royal undergarment of Atum with the fig leaf loincloth made for Biblical Adam.

In the Egyptian creation story, the first goddess, Tefnut, was said to come forth out of Atum. One of her Mesopotamian nicknames was Nin-ti, meaning "Lady Life," or "The Lady (Who Makes) Live." S.N. Kramer states that ti is also the Sumerian word for "rib," therefore Nin-ti could variously be interpreted as "the Lady of the Rib."b In the Bible, Eve is of course formed from the rib of Adam.

The Hebrew name Adam means "a man, ruddy." Genesis 2:23 (KJV)c states: "she [Eve] was taken out of man." However, the Hebrew word translated in this particular verse as "man" is not Adam but iysh (376).d Like the Egyptian name Atum, this word iysh also conveys a sense of both unity and totality.

It is commonly translated elsewhere in the Bible as "every, everyone," i.e., all men. There is an obvious phonic similarity between Adam and Atum. A true linguistic link is also not so unreasonable given that the names of all of the other major Egyptian deities have definite Semitic etymologies.1”

Chapter 1: A Twisted History (Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel)

Regards
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The Genesis creation myths are most likely Sumerian in origin, being that they very closely parallel Sumerian creation myth stories.

OP adequately answered. Next topic please.




You're welcome.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The Genesis creation myths are most likely Sumerian in origin, being that they very closely parallel Sumerian creation myth stories.

OP adequately answered. Next topic please.




You're welcome.

OP is using a double standard.

Applies what he can against the bible, but changes it when it applies to his religion.

Since Mesopotamian influeneces go against his owm books mythology, he posted some garbage to promot his own belief.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
OP is using a double standard.

Applies what he can against the bible, but changes it when it applies to his religion.

Since Mesopotamian influeneces go against his owm books mythology, he posted some garbage to promot his own belief.
Oh, I see. He's using fallacious arguments by moving the goal posts.
 
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