Where have all the manners gone?

[Melody]

In some cultures , all of soceity . But in this culture , parents DEMAND the right to raise children as they see fit , which I believe they should have the right to , but it doesn't remove our duties and responsibilities .

Both in my education classes and on the actual job, I was told that we are not to teach values to the students. That was not our job and infringed on the parents rights. I never did figure out how to prevent teach values since every time I said "lying is not allowed in this classroom", "stealing is not allowed...", etc., I was teaching values.

I think manners is something that should be taught by parents and reinforced in school. Many times it's not being done in either place.

 

[Feathers in Hair]

"Blast from the Past"... That's one of the best movies of all time, hehee! "Poison gas!"

 

[michel]

Both in my education classes and on the actual job, I was told that we are not to teach values to the students. That was not our job and infringed on the parents rights. I never did figure out how to prevent teach values since every time I said "lying is not allowed in this classroom", "stealing is not allowed...", etc., I was teaching values.

I think manners is something that should be taught by parents and reinforced in school. Many times it's not being done in either place.

Because of apathy, lack of communication - assumptions on both sides. I agree; if only people could learn to talk to each other.

 

[joeboonda]

Beware of the porno shop!

 

[nonda]

Sorry nonda, but it was highly impolite for you to tell the woman how to raise her children. You both were in the wrong on this one.

:tsk:

I'm sorry what was I thinking? I should have let the 10 year old hit my 2 MONTH OLD . Darn me. Someone needed to tell her if not me hopefully some else would have.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

A lot of people (children and adults alike) think that just because I work in a fast food restaurant, that I don't deserve the common courtesy and respect that everyone else does. Nothing irritates me more than "Give me" and "I want", without a "please" or "thank you" attached. If I'm feeling particularly annoyed by it, when they have finished their demand, I say "Please..." :sarcastic I don't really mean to do it, it just slips out...but it usually has the desired effect, and they realise how rude they've been. The last person I did that to was a woman in her 30s, but it's mainly kids who are old enough to know better.

I saw a great sign. It said "Attention rude customers. There will be a 10 dollar charge just for putting up with you." One thing for sure, I wouldn't say my "pleases and thank yous" and Arbys to some people if I wasn't required to. My good acting skills can keep me faking alot of pleases and thank yous though. I really hate it when the customer acts when there smarter than me, when chances are, my SAT scores are higher than thiers.

 

[Quoth The Raven]

My older sister and I often wonder at the lack of manners/general respect for other people's property that our little brother and sister show. We were raised by the same parents, but they seem to have gotten soft in their old age. [/QUOTE]
Gotten soft?! Gotten soft?! They need a foot up the rear end themselves..gotten soft doesn't even come close to theefforts not put into the non raising of those kids. Every time they come here - which over the last 12 months has been far too often - they take over the house, commandeer anything that will operate a game or has a screen and thats the end of it. Every visit something gets broken or interfered with to the extent that it wont work. While mother spends an inordinate amount of time shrieking like some sort of mentally deranged banshee, it never seems to be about the bad behaviour of her younger children, unless said behaviour is impacting on her in some sort of adverse fashion.
Last time they were down we were watching a DVD, and when it finished, my other half (who is a bit of a joker) said to my brother,'Can you just hit the rewind button on that thanks?' My brother got up and walked to the dvd player, looked at it for a few seconds, gerried that it was a DVD and didn't require rewinding, looked at my other half and said,'You C***!'
My immediate reaction was,'Excuse me?!' , his father's only response was a laid back, 'Yeah, he's got a foul mouth.' Mother wandered into the room and heard what had happened, and she treated the whole incident with the same level of disregard. I'm still totally aghast at the reaction. If I had said something like that to someone when I was 16, my next action would have been to run like buggery to avoid the well deserved slapping that would have followed. Not to mention the fact that I would have been made to apologise.
It's no wonder my other half keeps asking me if I'm sure I'm not adopted whenever they leave.

 

[Ryan2065]

I'm sorry what was I thinking? I should have let the 10 year old hit my 2 MONTH OLD . Darn me. Someone needed to tell her if not me hopefully some else would have.

And is it your place to force your morals on someone else and tell them how to raise their children? All I am saying is that most people would take offense to that, hense it could be considered bad manners to tell someone else how to raise their children.

 

[nonda]

And is it your place to force your morals on someone else and tell them how to raise their children? All I am saying is that most people would take offense to that, hense it could be considered bad manners to tell someone else how to raise their children.

I meant it to be offensive, It was my buiness when her child was indangering my child. If she did not like the out-come maybe she should have stopped him before it led to me "telling her how to raise her child!"

 

[Ryan2065]

I meant it to be offensive, It was my buiness when her child was indangering my child. If she did not like the out-come maybe she should have stopped him before it led to me "telling her how to raise her child!"

All I am pointing out is that you have also lost your manners it seems. =)

 

[Bastet]

Settle down, children...or I'll send you both to your rooms!

 

[Bastet]

My older sister and I often wonder at the lack of manners/general respect for other people's property that our little brother and sister show. We were raised by the same parents, but they seem to have gotten soft in their old age.

Gotten soft?! Gotten soft?! They need a foot up the rear end themselves..gotten soft doesn't even come close to theefforts not put into the non raising of those kids. Every time they come here - which over the last 12 months has been far too often - they take over the house, commandeer anything that will operate a game or has a screen and thats the end of it. Every visit something gets broken or interfered with to the extent that it wont work. While mother spends an inordinate amount of time shrieking like some sort of mentally deranged banshee, it never seems to be about the bad behaviour of her younger children, unless said behaviour is impacting on her in some sort of adverse fashion.
Last time they were down we were watching a DVD, and when it finished, my other half (who is a bit of a joker) said to my brother,'Can you just hit the rewind button on that thanks?' My brother got up and walked to the dvd player, looked at it for a few seconds, gerried that it was a DVD and didn't require rewinding, looked at my other half and said,'You C***!'
My immediate reaction was,'Excuse me?!' , his father's only response was a laid back, 'Yeah, he's got a foul mouth.' Mother wandered into the room and heard what had happened, and she treated the whole incident with the same level of disregard. I'm still totally aghast at the reaction. If I had said something like that to someone when I was 16, my next action would have been to run like buggery to avoid the well deserved slapping that would have followed. Not to mention the fact that I would have been made to apologise.
It's no wonder my other half keeps asking me if I'm sure I'm not adopted whenever they leave.

I think we're both adopted. Or mother was abducted by aliens somewhere along the way and they left her somewhat the worse for wear. You know what really makes me laugh, though? That mum thinks she knows better than you how you should raise your kids. Like her younger two are such fine examples of her parenting these days... :sarcastic I can't believe what those two kids get away with (I knew you'd be able to rant so much better than me on that subject). I have a vivid memory of saying that the elastic on the cat's collar was "buggered" when I was about 14 - the first time I'd even come remotely close to swearing in mum's presence - and you'd have thought I'd insulted her personally the way she reacted. Her non-reaction to that recent dropping of the c-word just astounds me... :areyoucra

 

[huajiro]

I had another incident you can probably appreciate Nonda. My wife and I just bought a condo with my in-laws. Yesterday my family and I were out swimming in the pool, which is used by all of the people that live there. I went to go sit in the jacuzzi for a bit and a little boy went over to my mother-in-law and asked if he could use my goggles. She said "fine". After a little bit, we decided to go home, and I asked the little boy for my goggles. He told me that he had given them to my sister-in-law. She said "no", that he never gave her anything. I asked him for them again, he said he did not have them. I noticed them under his feet in the pool. I told him to give them to me and he acted like he was drowing.......anything to keep from giving them to me. I found myself getting very frystrated, as there was really nothing I could do. I avoided jumping into the pool, for fear that he would accuse me of something. He eventually gave them to me, but I am still quite angry over this. If you knew what I am paying for my condo.....and to have to deal with a child who has no concept of making a living, or the value of things.....I don't know, it just makes me mad, especially with the parents. There is a HOA meeting tonight, I am going to mention this.

 

[nonda]

All I am pointing out is that you have also lost your manners it seems. =)

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I was not imploite when telling the young " Do not do that little buddy there is a baby in there!" When I approached the women did not raise my voice or even speak harshly. I took her aside as to not draw attention to us. She is the one who reacted with "no manners" I believe I handle it very well. There could have been so many different out comes to our situtation, I could have got mad and started yelling at her . But I did not , I did what anyone else in my postion should or would have.

 

[michel]

Graffiti is, I believe, one of those symptoms of 'Where have all the manners gone'.

Oh blast now I have that song in my head again - who started this thread anyway ? it's all your fault!- long time passing, where have all................Aghhhhhhhhhh I wouldn't mind, I love the song but seeing this post everytime I come on the forum..............

Where was I ? - yes, Graffiti, and manners having gone. Respect for the property of others - Like my friend Huajiro, with his goggles. There is a block of flats (What you guys call appartments) not far from here. They regularly paint all the outside, keep everything tidy, neat. Every single time they paint the metal garage doors, some joker comes along, and makes his marks on them all.

The other day, I walked up, and lo and behold, there were two Spanish students scribbling on the white paint of the garage door frame with come sort of felt tip marker. I waited until I thought they were out of sight, got a tissue out, and tried to remove their silly little messages. I couldn't; the ink seemed to be indelible; just as I gave up, I heard some giggles.... Oh yes, Funny!:149:

 

[Ryan2065]

I took her aside as to not draw attention to us. She is the one who reacted with "no manners" I believe I handle it very well.

I meant it to be offensive, It was my buiness when her child was indangering my child. If she did not like the out-come maybe she should have stopped him before it led to me "telling her how to raise her child!"

As you said, I meant it to be offensive. You ask where have all the manners gone? Apparently people believe there are more important things than manners, you know, like the safety of your child.

 

[CaptainXeroid]

All I am pointing out is that you have also lost your manners it seems. =)

Sorry, but is a very immature statement. nonda pulling aside an irresponsible parent and coaching her in how to tend her child in public was a very responsible thing to do. It showed a very good display of manners.

I meant it to be offensive, It was my buiness when her child was indangering my child. If she did not like the out-come maybe she should have stopped him before it led to me "telling her how to raise her child!"

Frubals once again to you for having the courage to do the right thing.:162: Perhaps, the next time her brat starts to misbehave, she will discipline him herself, and the bad behaviour will cease without a thrid party needing to intervene.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And is it your place to force your morals on someone else and tell them how to raise their children? All I am saying is that most people would take offense to that, hense it could be considered bad manners to tell someone else how to raise their children.

If I had a kid and someone elses unmannered kid tried to hit mine, I would let the other parent know about it. Teaching your kids to not hit others, pretending to shoot at others, mouthing off, and other things should be common since to know you teach your kids to not do that.
Nonda did the right thing, and going off to the side to avoid drawing attention makes it the mature thing to do.
I ask you Ryan, what would you have done if you was is Nonda's situation. A little unruly brat is about to hit your child that is only 2 months old. Would you ingnore it or complain to the parent?