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Where is it written "The Person of Satan"?
- Thread starter savagewind
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Many people believe and teach that satan is a powerful spirit person who reigns over The Earth.
If you are someone who believes that, why do you believe it?
Does God say I should believe it?
Do YOU think I should believe it? Why please?
If you are someone who believes that, why do you believe it?
Does God say I should believe it?
Do YOU think I should believe it? Why please?
Revelation 12:9
9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
2 Corinthians 11:14
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 2:11
11 so that we may not be overreached by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his designs.
James 4:7
7 Therefore, subject yourselves to God; but oppose the Devil, and he will flee from you.
Matthew 4:10
Be gone Satan! For it is written,
“ ‘You shall worship the Lord your God
and him only shall you serve.’ ”
9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
2 Corinthians 11:14
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 2:11
11 so that we may not be overreached by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his designs.
James 4:7
7 Therefore, subject yourselves to God; but oppose the Devil, and he will flee from you.
Matthew 4:10
Be gone Satan! For it is written,
“ ‘You shall worship the Lord your God
and him only shall you serve.’ ”
There are two things, which are both bad imo, that a person might act out for their belief in Satan.
One is to look for safety from him and the other is like you say Mr. Mud, it places blame on something else.
The placing of blame is instead of learning and growing. To be occupied in looking for safety from t is replacing looking for righteousness.
Peace is found by them by rejecting personal responsibility and a sense of security is found by them by their finding a perceived safe haven, which is religion.
One is to look for safety from him and the other is like you say Mr. Mud, it places blame on something else.
The placing of blame is instead of learning and growing. To be occupied in looking for safety from t is replacing looking for righteousness.
Peace is found by them by rejecting personal responsibility and a sense of security is found by them by their finding a perceived safe haven, which is religion.
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Yes. Thank you. I have read it 1000 times. Where does it say he is a person in charge of The Earth? That was the question. I do not doubt that the scripture is true.
OK in another place it calls him a prince. But fyi a prince is not in charge. His father the king is.
Who is Satan's father?
Rev 9:12 was darned clear as were the other scriptures.
9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
What is it clear about?
Lies mislead. Do they not? Believing something wrong misleads. Does it not? Not listening to the voice of the Savior misleads. Does it not? Satan could mean deafness. YOU say satan is a person who needs destroying by Christ. They say Christ comes to destroy the person of Satan. So? Then what does 1 John 2:14 mean? Some people have battled satan and won. So it is possible. Can humans battle a powerful evil spirit person and win?
The meaning of satan is something that is able to be fought and won.
Who is Satan's father?
Illusions are real in that they affect people.
How does anyone know for sure the satan and the devil in the Bible aren't illusions?
Coming under the influence of evil might just mean allowing the illusion to have power. Illusions are not real so the power of them is on the believing one, not on the illusion.
How does anyone know for sure the satan and the devil in the Bible aren't illusions?
Coming under the influence of evil might just mean allowing the illusion to have power. Illusions are not real so the power of them is on the believing one, not on the illusion.
Who is Satan's father?
te_lanus
Alien Hybrid
"Satan" is a label not a person. In Job Satan is swown that he needs God's permission to do anything to anybody. Also Job disprove the notion that's portrayed that Satan was thrown out of heaven, since in Job satan seems to be able to enter heaven at will.
Famous satan's in the bible:
1) the angel of God in Numbers 22:22 same
2) David: 1 Sam 29:4
3) The sons of Zeruiah: 2 Sam 19:22
4) Hadad the Edomite: 1 kings 11:14
5) Rezon the son of Eliadah: 1 Kings 11:23
All of them was "satans" (or how it's translated into english: Adversaries
Knowing the Christian Bible better might have shown you that in the time of Job
Satan could indeed travel between the earth and heaven at will.
Satan has since been "cast down" and cannot enter the heavenly realm any longer.
As an aside on this post someone needs define what "person" means with relevance
to a spiritual critter like Satan is supposed to be.
Definition of person:
per·son
/ˈpərs(ə)n/
noun
- a human being regarded as an individual.
Right ! Thank you. Person also can mean a soul as an individual. I am contending that Biblical Satan is NOT an individual.
I think somewhere it is written in scripture "the Person of Jehovah". I might look it up later.
Satan being thrown from Heaven might mean no one in heaven is leaning on their own understanding.
Well, you sure do talk like you do.
I looked up Jehovah the person. I learned the Bible from the previous NWT and indeed they say at Job 1:12 and Job 2:7 "Person of Jehovah" but it is now changed to "presence". Footnote "face".
SATAN....When not believing in the myth,
then one must find a subsitute opposition.
Why would this God hurl satan to earth ?
What would be gained by this action ?
Who in heaven would fear him, other than God ?
What could really be in opposition to this God ?
Only the words of men,
and it's followers are the opposition.
Only man and the followers of mankind,
we are the opposition !
We don't need the myth !
~
'mud
then one must find a subsitute opposition.
Why would this God hurl satan to earth ?
What would be gained by this action ?
Who in heaven would fear him, other than God ?
What could really be in opposition to this God ?
Only the words of men,
and it's followers are the opposition.
Only man and the followers of mankind,
we are the opposition !
We don't need the myth !
~
'mud
Good point! What is the myth good for? Something to think about.......
One reason for the myth is there needs to be faith in a place, but why would a satan be there in the first place? It says satan was there and then he is not. I shall think about it.