Where is the line?

[kmkemp]

I thought I provided a pretty clear answer, just as athanasius did. Just because you do not wish to accept what the verse says doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the answer.

 

[Lindsey-Loo]

Really?

Then why does my KJV version of the Bible read significantly different at places then my grandmothers NIV?

idk, I would have to see the examples.

 

[McBell]

I thought I provided a pretty clear answer, just as athanasius did. Just because you do not wish to accept what the verse says doesn't mean that there is something wrong with the answer.

Actually, it isn't that I disagree with what the verse says.
It is that I disagree with your opinion as to what the verse says.
and as far as feeding the troll athanasius, I am done.

 

[logician]

I have seen a number of religions that claim to be Christian yet do things that defy Christian belief completly. For example. Some groups have added their own spiritual testements to the bible when it states very clearly in the bible that anyone who adds anything to the bible is damned. The only argument I have read is that they don't believe the part of the bible that states that. Once again this goes against the bible completly since it says you can't take anything away from it either. So where is the line between re-writing Gods word? If you are a Christian you can't change the bible, God says so in it.

The notio0n that it is wrong to add or subtract from the bible is kind of ridiculous a anyway, as its contents were decided by a committee of Xian leaders. It wasn't godly inspiration that created the bible, but what was considered to be least harmful the xian movement at that time.

 

[NomyRomy]

Really?

Then why does my KJV version of the Bible read significantly different at places then my grandmothers NIV?

What does NIV mean? I thought you guys have your own bible, mormons I mean.

 

[athanasius]

Actually, it isn't that I disagree with what the verse says.
It is that I disagree with your opinion as to what the verse says.
and as far as feeding the troll athanasius, I am done.

I'm not a Troll, I am a Hobbit! Cant you tell???:hugkiss:

 

[McBell]

What does NIV mean? I thought you guys have your own bible, mormons I mean.

New International Version
And I do believe that the 'official' Bible of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the King James Version (KJV)

 

[*Paul*]

Sometimes they do. The Authorized Version in 1611 added the words to the famous prayer "Thine is the Kingdom, and the glory, and the power...."
Those aren't in the original. It was an addition by the translators to give King James a message.
I guess they're all burning in that lake of fire now.
Too bad, as they otherwise made a beautiful translation.

Textus receptus:

kaι μη εισενεγκης ημας εις πειρασμον αλλα ρυσαι ημας απο του πονηρου οτι σου εστιν η βασιλεια και η δυναμις και η δοξα εις τους αιωνας αμην

Byzantine Majority Text

και μη εισενεγκης ημας εις πειρασμον αλλα ρυσαι ημας απο του πονηρου οτι σου εστιν η βασιλεια και η δυναμις και η δοξα εις τους αιωνας αμην

It is tischendorf and westcott and hort who omit these and by no means have any authority over the 50 king James translators.

It is also in earlier literal translations:

Tyndale:
And leade vs not into teptacion: but delyver vs fro evell. For thyne is ye kyngedome and ye power and ye glorye for ever. Amen

James Murdocks Translation from the Syriac Pe****ta (One of the oldest MSS)
And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever: Amen.

Coverdale version:
And lede vs not in to teptacion: but delyuer vs from euell. For thyne is the kyngdome, and the power, and the glorye for euer. Amen

The bishops bible
And leade vs not into temptation, but delyuer vs from euyll. For thyne is the kyngdome, and the power, and the glory, for euer. Amen.

Geneva bible:
And leade vs not into tentation, but deliuer vs from euill: for thine is the kingdome, and the power, and the glorie for euer. Amen

Edit, I forgot the Didache:

But let not your fasts be with the hypocrites; Matthew 6:16 for they fast on the second and fifth day of the week; but do ye fast on the fourth day and the Preparation (Friday). 2. Neither pray as the hypocrites; but as the Lord commanded in His Gospel, thus pray: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done, as in heaven, so on earth. Give us today our daily (needful) bread, and forgive us our debt as we also forgive our debtors. And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one (or, evil); for Yours is the power and the glory for ever. 3. Thrice in the day thus pray.

 

[Katzpur]

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18

If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
John 10:35

But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
James 1:25

To me, anyway, these verses point out that nothing can be taken away from the law, the scriptures cannot be broken, and the law is perfect (so why would you want to add to it?).

I didn't say that man could add to God's word; what I said was that God never said He was through talking to us. Nowhere does the Bible claim to be a complete record of God's dealings with mankind, nor does it claim to contain every truth He wants us to know.

 

[Katzpur]

What does NIV mean? I thought you guys have your own bible, mormons I mean.

We use the King James Version of the Bible, just like a whole lot of other Christians do.

 

[Bishka]

What does NIV mean? I thought you guys have your own bible, mormons I mean.

NIV is one of the many translations of the Bible. It stands for New International Version. The KJV stands for the Kings James Version and is one of the older versions. We read and study and believe in the Bible the same as other faiths.

 

[*Paul*]

What does NIV mean? I thought you guys have your own bible, mormons I mean.

Nomy Romy, They use the King James bible but do not believe the bible to be a full revelation, they believe that God has also given us the book of mormon,the pearl of great price doctrine and covenants.

They only accept the truth of the bible insofar as it is translated correctly but do not believe it to be perfect.

One example is when Jesus says He is to be baptised to "fulfill all righteousness" the book of mormon tells you exactly what is meant by that but you couldn't really know using the bible alone.

There is also the Joseph Smith INSPIRED translation of the scriptures, which they don't use as another Mormon sect holds the copyright to it and apparently changed the original translation of it - or so I am told.

In short they use the King James Bible but it is not fully sufficient but God has given other religious texts for you to read to know His will.

P.S. I can't believe you didn't know what NIV stands for..

 

[Bishka]

In short they use the King James Bible but it is not fully sufficient but God has given other religious texts for you to read to know His will.

God has also given the Book of Mormon as another testament of Jesus Christ and who He is. (It actually says that right on the Title Page)