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??where/why/change????

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+Xausted said:
Is it just me or are the two topics unrelated? what has WW2 got to do with Christs coming?
Why do people use that attrocity to explain away God (just incase you are unaware I am a nihilist so not coming from a Christian perspective)
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I use it as a benchmark...it being the greatest murder/rape/killing/etc. event...I'm not using it specifically, ...about 2000 years after 'he came', there is WWII, so it seems obvious, 'he' didn't change the world or people at all...
 
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Thesavorofpan said:
WW2 wasn't a war about change, it was a war against an invading countries.
I don't know about other religions, but I know that the Christanity those that believe in the book of revelations, say that its suppose to get worst.
But in my view point, man is evil, therefore life on is cruel.
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I also believe that, somewhat....man is inherently out for himself...and if not given love/discipline/taught right from wrong, usually goes to the bad side....well, this will have to be another thread...ty
 
Midnight Pete

Midnight Pete

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Skwim said:
From the way I understand the story, the "'christ'/etc" event wasn't supposed to change the ongoing misery in the world, which, of course, it hasn't, but rather offer a way out of it. Evidently the Christian god isn't so much concerned with the quality of our lives on Earth, but with how much praise and adoration he can accrue.
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You make him sound like Satan. :rolleyes:
 
ellenjanuary

ellenjanuary

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Mommy... he's waving his magic jesus wand at me! Sorry about that... One is supposed to be the jesus, not so much worship the jesus; in that manner one becomes the son of man worthy of god. And the thing is, a lot of Christians don't, a lot of non-Christians do, and, as always, there's a lot of finger pointing going on. What's the point? Complexity. The "truth" cannot be told in a story, it can only be heard in the resonance of all stories.
 
Midnight Pete

Midnight Pete

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Man is no saintly creature. :no:

Read up on the following subjects:

The Spanish Iniquisition
The Crusades
Pedophile Priests
9/11
Khmer Rouge Cambodian Genocide
Rwandan Genocide
Jewish Holocaust
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Midnight Pete said:
Man is no saintly creature. :no:

Read up on the following subjects:

The Spanish Iniquisition
The Crusades
Pedophile Priests
9/11
Khmer Rouge Cambodian Genocide
Rwandan Genocide
Jewish Holocaust
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And it was man who also ended all of those things (or works towards ending these things). Meanwhile, God - who supposedly has the power to stop these things from ever happening in the first place - just sat and watched and did nothing.

Ergo, humans > God.
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
ImmortalFlame said:
And it was man who also ended all of those things (or works towards ending these things). Meanwhile, God - who supposedly has the power to stop these things from ever happening in the first place - just sat and watched and did nothing.

Ergo, humans > God.
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not to mention god condoned
slavery (beating them, selling their children-human trafficking)
gender inequality
rape...
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Midnight Pete said:
You make him sound like Satan. :rolleyes:
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Hey, it's your (Christian's) story. :shrug:

I'm simply looking at what is said about your god in light of reality. Don't like that he comes off looking like a bad guy then I suggest Christians start making some changes in their beliefs.
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Midnight Pete said:
Could it be that God works through human beings for the betterment of the world?
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If he did, that would make him an even bigger monster for using humans as nothing but tools to fix the problems he himself created.

Either way, he'd still be responsible for putting it in such a mess in the first place.
 
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