Which belief closer to Jews (Islam or Christianity)

[Godobeyer]

1 - This is an assertion, but how can it be proved?

proved what ?

2 - In what sense? If you mean scientific errors, then certainly it does.

what scientific errors ?

 

[Kirran]

proved what ?

That the Qur'an comes directly from source, as you put it.

what scientific errors ?

23:14 inaccurately describes embryogenesis. And look, this doesn't by any means invalidate the scripture as a spiritual text, a scripture isn't about literal science etc, it's not addressing that.

 

[Godobeyer]

That the Qur'an comes directly from source, as you put it.

that's known

this will help :
PLEASE scroll video to 21:00

23:14 inaccurately describes embryogenesis. And look, this doesn't by any means invalidate the scripture as a spiritual text, a scripture isn't about literal science etc, it's not addressing that

you mean this :

 

[Kirran]

that's known

this will help :
PLEASE scroll video to 21:00

you mean this :

We're derailing the thread. Let's leave the discussion for now, but thankyou for your feedback to these ideas

 

[Godobeyer]

We're derailing the thread. Let's leave the discussion for now, but thankyou for your feedback to these ideas

there is no problem brother , i just answsered your questions

 

[Godobeyer]

How can you believe their books if you think they are corrupted? Which part of these are corrupted and how can you make sure?

Sorry i miss to reply on this one :

Please re-read my post #54

if you did not understand it , i will try to explain again for you .

 

[TashaN]

Hi Godobeyer

I have a question about your question. Given that Jews are such a small group, why are you interested in what Jews think?

I know this question is not directed at me, but i believe it's natural that Muslims will be interested in Judaism and Jews since most of the Quran talks about Moses and sons of Israel.

 

[TashaN]

The Testaments of the Christian Bible are speaking of the two Covenants that God made with man. The first was with the Jews and the second was with all humanity through Christ (which also fulfilled the first one made with the Jews). As for the Trinity, we believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit because we believe that is something that Christ revealed to us about God.

What do you think of this verse?

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 15:24

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What do you think of this verse?

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 15:24

Jesus' preaching mission was to the Jews first. Most of them rejected Him, as was expected. But He accepted and ministered to believing Gentiles, as well. He did end up healing the woman's daughter: " 28 Then Jesus answered her, “O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed instantly." - Matthew 10:28

 

[Theweirdtophat]

It can be a tough question since I believe Islam and Judaism are closer. They have similar views on God and have prohibitions like not eating pork. But however both Christians and Jews read the old testament and the difference is, The Christians read the New Testament, too, while Islam doesn't read any of that stuff and only the Quran.

 

[TashaN]

Jesus' preaching mission was to the Jews first. Most of them rejected Him, as was expected. But He accepted and ministered to believing Gentiles, as well. He did end up healing the woman's daughter: " 28 Then Jesus answered her, “O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed instantly." - Matthew 10:28

Indeed, he did heal her eventually, according to the bible but i thought it was only because of her having strong faith rather than being obliged to help her. It's like something rare he can do in exceptional cases, but not the norm which was reserved to his fellow people, sons of Israel.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Indeed, he did heal her eventually, according to the bible but i thought it was only because of her having strong faith rather than being obliged to help her. It's like something rare he can do in exceptional cases, but not the norm which was reserved to his fellow people, sons of Israel.

It wasn't the norm for Him to minister to Gentiles since that wasn't the point of His earthly mission. Sometimes, He would test them, as we see here, but He didn't turn anyone away who had earnest faith. After Christ's mission was fulfilled, the Apostles were sent out to preach the Gospel to all nations.

 

[Augustus]

Are people thinking about modern Judaism and modern Christianity when answering this? Or are people considering 7th C Judaism and Christianity also?

The Judaism to Christianity continuum had a lot more stages on it then than it does now.

What do people think about the idea that it could most resemble a form of 7th Jewish Christianity?