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Which evolved first, tendons or bones

Kev100504

Kev100504

Member
FearGod said:
Tendons connect bones together in away that enable us to have flexible movements, the
way that bones are connected together is a sign of a design and not a blind evolution, if
you think that tendons and bones were a result of mutations and natural selections then
please explain how both evolved together to achieve such an amazing job.
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How does bacteria and other microorganisms stay alive without lungs and a central nervous system?
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
FearGod said:
The point is the flexible movements of the bone which is connected in away that shows a design and not the outcome
of random mutations and natural selections.
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and my point is that you lack of basic knowledge of biology is errant and I have no reason to believe your understand I g of the evolutionary process is not just as flawed.
Evolution is proven and the data backing it mounts everyday.

It's time to come to grips with the fact that the natural world and the Biblical world do not coincide much. I have and it only makes my faith stronger and in no way shakes my faith in the Bible.
 
Kev100504

Kev100504

Member
FearGod said:
Regardless, the question if a designer exists, i don't believe on chances making a meaningful job,
thinking both evolved together at the same moments to achieve such job is meaningless except
if you can explain how such thing can be achieved by random mutations and natural selection.
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You and I were not designed...a sperm fertilized an egg...embryo...birth and we grew....please tell me where a designer fits into the equation? When Ford came out with the first car was it designed to produce other cars without the original designer? I always laugh when creationists use inantimate objects to explain something from nothing...moronic at best.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
FearGod said:
Again I'm not speaking about religion, my discussion if it's pre-designed or due to unplanned variations that resulted in the complex construction
of bones that enables it to have flexible movements and how separated evolutions of each have been organized in away to have a meaningful job.
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This is obviously a poorly disguised argument for Intelligent Design, a religious agenda. Any argument concerning whether life is planned or designed or not has no other purpose than a theist agenda. The language you use betrays your agenda, and it is not the language of science nor scientific methods, Also the present knowledge of science has explained the evolution of the complexity of life by documenting the individual increment and step in evolution from simple forms to the complex.

Again . . .

How is your background in academic biochemistry, genetics, physiology, and comparative anatomy, because my references can get deep?
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
sandy whitelinger said:
and my point is that you lack of basic knowledge of biology is errant and I have no reason to believe your understand I g of the evolutionary process is not just as flawed.
Evolution is proven and the data backing it mounts everyday.

It's time to come to grips with the fact that the natural world and the Biblical world do not coincide much. I have and it only makes my faith stronger and in no way shakes my faith in the Bible.
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Programmed evolution, design is well observed and hence nature alone isn't the answer for the complexity of the creation of life on earth.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
FearGod said:
Programmed evolution, design is well observed and hence nature alone isn't the answer for the complexity of the creation of life on earth.
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Assertion without evidence, No, 'Programmed evolution IS NOT observed at all in science;

Science references please?!?!?!

Again . . .

How is your background in academic biochemistry, genetics, physiology, and comparative anatomy, because my references can get deep?
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
shunyadragon said:
This is obviously a poorly disguised argument for Intelligent Design, a religious agenda. Any argument concerning whether life is planned or designed or not has no other purpose than a theist agenda. The language you use betrays your agenda, and it is not the language of science nor scientific methods, Also the present knowledge of science has explained the evolution of the complexity of life by documenting the individual increment and step in evolution from simple forms to the complex.

Again . . .

How is your background in academic biochemistry, genetics, physiology, and comparative anatomy, because my references can get deep?
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Go deeper in explaining your point, if I don't get it then at least you do your job to explain it to the others who have excellent background in biology,
how tendons evolved together with bones to enable the flexibility of bones movements, both have no relation to each others, so how both organized
to a specific job, explain it in your own scientific way and let's see what you'll offer.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Kev100504 said:
You and I were not designed...a sperm fertilized an egg...embryo...birth and we grew....please tell me where a designer fits into the equation? When Ford came out with the first car was it designed to produce other cars without the original designer? I always laugh when creationists use inantimate objects to explain something from nothing...moronic at best.
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the Sperm and the egg are designed to combine to produce a new creation, not seeing how the designer made things to work doesn't mean he
doesn't exist.
 
sandy whitelinger

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
FearGod said:
Programmed evolution, design is well observed and hence nature alone isn't the answer for the complexity of the creation of life on earth.
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Well since my replies sailed over your head let me ask you this. Do you believe that the mechanisms of evolution exist?
 
Windwalker

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
FearGod said:
How did you come to this conclusion?
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I addressed most of that in post 11 Which evolved first, tendons or bones

But to answer shortly, evolution is about adaptation for survival. Those adaptations evolution comes up with are the "intelligent designs". Therefore evolution is the Designer. God creates us through the process of evolution. We aren't perfect, but we are functional and it works well enough for the purpose of being alive.

Question to you. Why do you feel it's necessary to deny evolution in order to accept God? Isn't that kind of like saying you actually don't believe in God to deny what evidence is there that supports how God creates? I believe in God and evolution. It's how God creates us.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Windwalker said:
I addressed most of that in post 11 Which evolved first, tendons or bones

But to answer shortly, evolution is about adaptation for survival. Those adaptations evolution comes up with are the "intelligent designs". Therefore evolution is the Designer. God creates us through the process of evolution. We aren't perfect, but we are functional and it works well enough for the purpose of being alive.

Question to you. Why do you feel it's necessary to deny evolution in order to accept God? Isn't that kind of like saying you actually don't believe in God to deny what evidence is there that supports how God creates? I believe in God and evolution. It's how God creates us.
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Where did I say that evolution is false? how to deny a fact, but it doesn't mean that evolution just happened without a pre-design and a plan.
not able to find the designer doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
 
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