Which religion do these beliefs resemble?

[CDWolfe]

If someone had the following beliefs, what religion/denomination would you call them:

1. God is the creator. He is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient.
2. Jesus is God's son, who died on the cross for the sins of mankind. Whether or not He was born from a virgin is irrelevant.
3. A belief in the Holy Spirit as part of the Trinity.
4. Agree with Judaism that Ha-SaTan is an angel following God's orders to accuse the sinful, and bring them before God for judgment.
5. There is no such place as Hell right now, but Gehenna will be a place of torment for the wicked after the resurrections and/or rapture.
6. Humans have free will and it is because of free will that bad things happen (someone makes a choice to do something bad).
7. The Bible is not inerrant (completely error free) but is infallible (does not intentionally try to mislead).
8. The English translations are not as accurate as the original Hebrew and Greek.
9. History and philosophy play an important role in understanding religion.
10. Science can explain a lot of the phenomenons presented in the Bible, but God's laws of nature define the study of science.

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[savagewind]

I like the list. I do not know that Ha-Sa Tan is an angel. It took writing it to see it says satan. Is it? What do you believe are angels?

 

[F0uad]

Gehenna is that a Jewish word? Since it sounds very much as the Arabic one.

 

[Shiranui117]

Gehenna is that a Jewish word? Since it sounds very much as the Arabic one.

Either Hebrew or Aramaic.

 

[CDWolfe]

Hopefully I am not butchering their belief, but Judaism teaches that Satan is not the devil, but rather the accuser, and his name is actually a title. He is following God's orders and carrying out his assigned duties. Nothing is done without God's permission. This actually corresponds with the OT.

They also do not believe in "hell." Sheol simply means the grave. Christianity (especially the KJV) got it wrong and has some bad interpretations.

I believe the angels are created beings, serving God in whatever capacity He chooses.

 

[savagewind]

Hopefully I am not butchering their belief, but Judaism teaches that Satan is not the devil, but rather the accuser, and his name is actually a title. He is following God's orders and carrying out his assigned duties. Nothing is done without God's permission. This actually corresponds with the OT.

They also do not believe in "hell." Sheol simply means the grave. Christianity (especially the KJV) got it wrong and has some bad interpretations.

I believe the angels are created beings, serving God in whatever capacity He chooses.

Ephesians 1:22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
1 Corinthians 15:27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ
Psalm 8:6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:


I agree Sa Tan cannot perform independent of God. But a problem in understanding arises for me. If Satan follows God's orders why is Satan described as one destined to be destroyed?
Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Revelation 20:2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

Is the Satan character the same as the devil?

 

[savagewind]

What about this? Have you given it thought as I have?

I wonder if these three are different aspects of the same body?

Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever

How can only a part of a body be destroyed? I think it is possible.

 

[CDWolfe]

I agree Sa Tan cannot perform independent of God. But a problem in understanding arises for me. If Satan follows God's orders why is Satan described as one destined to be destroyed?
Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Revelation 20:2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

Is the Satan character the same as the devil?

Thus the separation of the OT and the NT, Judaism and Christianity.

The Book of Revelation is 100% prophetic, so read it as such. The writer(s) are describing things that they were given visions of (supposedly).

Satan plays a very small role in the OT, but then is the direct adversary to God and/or Jesus in the NT. I am not up to speed on the mythology of Satan, but I will find out what I can, and how he became the devil in the NT. I suspect there is a lot more to the NT than what is written on the surface.

 

[Zardoz]

Hopefully I am not butchering their belief, but Judaism teaches that Satan is not the devil, but rather the accuser, and his name is actually a title. He is following God's orders and carrying out his assigned duties. Nothing is done without God's permission. This actually corresponds with the OT.

They also do not believe in "hell." Sheol simply means the grave. Christianity (especially the KJV) got it wrong and has some bad interpretations.

I believe the angels are created beings, serving God in whatever capacity He chooses.

This is as I believe, for what it's worth. In our faith, there was no rebellion in heaven, no fallen angels. Angels have no free will, so cannot fall, only we have free will due to our physical nature. There are demons, but these never were angels, they are spiritual toxic waste byproduct of the process of creating an imperfect physical universe.

Hell, is I feel a confusion. There is no such place, it is a state. Those whose wickedness denies them a place in the World to Come are utterly destroyed at the final Judgement. That is 'hell' but it's not a place but a judgement.

JMHO...

 

[Shiranui117]

Ephesians 1:22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
1 Corinthians 15:27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ
Psalm 8:6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:

I agree Sa Tan cannot perform independent of God. But a problem in understanding arises for me. If Satan follows God's orders why is Satan described as one destined to be destroyed?
Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Revelation 20:2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

Is the Satan character the same as the devil?

I've heard that the two are different somehow. Satan, the devil and the serpent are all different, according to one particular person I've talked to before. I couldn't tell you how, though...

What about this? Have you given it thought as I have?

I wonder if these three are different aspects of the same body?

Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever

How can only a part of a body be destroyed? I think it is possible.

I think they're in league with each other, but I don't know if I'd call them different aspects of the same body (not that I quite understand what you're getting at there)

 

[Gui10]

I believe Christianity is the answer to the OP's title question.