White professor at GWU lied about being Black

[Nakosis]

What benefits? I'm mixed and have yet to see any of these benefits in my 30 years of life.

It may be related to living in So Cal. Here, growing up in Junior High White folks were a minority. I think that was in '74?
Especially now, White folks are seen as oppressors by some groups, so sometimes you get some animosity in your direction. However, that is more in the LA area. Where I live there are no White folks, in my neighborhood. Entirely Hispanic but everyone is friendly.
Also in High School my son was singled out as the White guy, because of his last name, by his social studies teacher to explain cultural differences. I think that was a little uncomfortable for him so maybe why, depending on who he is around, he'd rather be seen as non-White.

 

[exchemist]

White professor at George Washington University admits she lied about being Black

If someone told me they were black, I would believe them, since I wouldn't have any reason to think that they're lying about something like that. (I'm reminded of Sean Connery's line in The Untouchables: "Who would claim to be that, if they weren't?")

Is this an example of cultural appropriation, or is it just simple delusion?



She does appear to regret what she has done and has apologized for it.

What really bothers me about this story is the absurd, histrionic language in which she expresses herself. "The napalm toxic soil of lies" indeed. What overwrought, sensationalist crap. And what a terrible mixed metaphor. Or is this a garbled reference to the Vietnam war, in which case is she confusing napalm with Agent Orange, or something?

When I was at university, we were taught to respect dispassionate analysis and words chosen with care. And this person is a professor of history? O tempora, O mores!

 

[exchemist]

It may be related to living in So Cal. Here, growing up in Junior High White folks were a minority. I think that was in '74?
Especially now, White folks are seen as oppressors by some groups, so sometimes you get some animosity in your direction. However, that is more in the LA area. Where I live there are no White folks, in my neighborhood. Entirely Hispanic but everyone is friendly.
Also in High School my son was singled out as the White guy, because of his last name, by his social studies teacher to explain cultural differences. I think that was a little uncomfortable for him so maybe why, depending on who he is around, he'd rather be seen as non-White.

It always astonishes me that in the USA Spanish speakers are considered not to be "white". As if "white" people only speak English, or something?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It may be related to living in So Cal. Here, growing up in Junior High White folks were a minority. I think that was in '74?
Especially now, White folks are seen as oppressors by some groups, so sometimes you get some animosity in your direction. However, that is more in the LA area. Where I live there are no White folks, in my neighborhood. Entirely Hispanic but everyone is friendly.
Also in High School my son was singled out as the White guy, because of his last name, by his social studies teacher to explain cultural differences. I think that was a little uncomfortable for him so maybe why, depending on who he is around, he'd rather be seen as non-White.

That makes sense. But things are totally different here in the Midwest, let alone the South.

 

[Nakosis]

It always astonishes me that in the USA Spanish speakers are considered not to be "white". As if "white" people only speak English, or something?

Surprises me I'm considered "White" since I'm actually more of a Spammy color.

 

[Nakosis]

That makes sense. But things are totally different here in the Midwest, let alone the South.

I get that. I mean I understand we are one big country but I've kind of been forced to acknowledge there are a lot of differences depending on which part of it you live in.

 

[sun rise]

Evidently this is a prerequisite for being the 2020 Democrat VP nominee...just sayin'.

Just saying - lying political propaganda designed to sow confusion and doubt for which I thank Trump to smear the way to another 4 years. It's just a continuation of the lies about Obama not being American.

 

[BSM1]

Just saying - lying political propaganda designed to sow confusion and doubt for which I thank Trump to smear the way to another 4 years. It's just a continuation of the lies about Obama not being American.

Which, BTW, was started by the Clinton campaign before Barry got the Demo nod...

 

[PureX]

Another complete non-story being played up by the media because it has racist overtones.

The real "offense" here are those CLASS TITLES! WTF???

 

[Revoltingest]

It always astonishes me that in the USA Spanish speakers are considered not to be "white". As if "white" people only speak English, or something?

Some believe that. Perhaps they stand out because
proclaiming that difference is noticeable, while not
proclaiming it is very un-noticeable.
As I've posted before, my neighbor is getting a $20K
no-strings-attached federal government small business
grant just cuz she's a "person of color". Her "color" is
blonde hair, blue eyes, & light skin. But being part
hispanic is the money trait. Oh, she doesn't speak
Spanish...just English.

 

[Brickjectivity]

White professor at George Washington University admits she lied about being Black

If someone told me they were black, I would believe them, since I wouldn't have any reason to think that they're lying about something like that. (I'm reminded of Sean Connery's line in The Untouchables: "Who would claim to be that, if they weren't?")

Is this an example of cultural appropriation, or is it just simple delusion?



She does appear to regret what she has done and has apologized for it.

She seems to regret it a little too much, and I don't feel like she needs to be so remorseful. Was anyone personally harmed? It doesn't sound like it. If I found out that my friend was not actually black, it wouldn't bother me. It'd be nothing they'd need to explain in depth or be extremely remorseful about it. At worst she's what...using it to get a job. Everybody needs a job.

Is it something which seems really bad to other people?

 

[Revoltingest]

She seems to regret it a little too much, and I don't feel like she needs to be so remorseful. Was anyone personally harmed? It doesn't sound like it. If I found out that my friend was not actually black, it wouldn't bother me. It'd be nothing they'd need to explain in depth or be extremely remorseful about it. At worst she's what...using it to get a job. Everybody needs a job.

Is it something which seems really bad to other people?

But it's possible that she perpetrated a fraud upon a university
that expected to get the cache & legitimacy of a diversity hire.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ok, I don't really know anybody like that so I'll have to take your word for it.

Ive met a few people here in California who traveled to North Central Klandiana. They are shocked and flabbergasted at how open and unashamedly racist people are there. I knew it was racist, but had no idea its very racist until I got out and was away from it for a few years and witness far fewer incidents of racism. If there are advantages, theyre table scraps at best.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Still waiting for the day when we stop talking about race. I do not understand the obsession with it. People are people. Treat people as people - each with their own unique stories and backgrounds. This shouldn't be hard.

I've been parroting Morgan Freeman for awhile now.

Just stop talking about it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

But it's possible that she perpetrated a fraud upon a university
that expected to get the cache & legitimacy of a diversity hire.

It does illustrate on how racism is and can be used to 'fight' racism.

Like that would solve things.

Don't blame the professor. She likely did a service here.

 

[Rise]

Like Rachel Dolezal, this seems to have some correlation with a history of child abuse. Something about being a victim and feeling the need to identify with a heavily victimized group, I suppose?

I don't know what those histories are, or if that is the common trend. However, if that's the case: It could possibly be a coping mechanism to deal with the poor self esteem that comes from their self identity as a victim.

If you get no sympathy, attention, or increased self value from your status as one type of victim, perhaps you can identify as another type of victim to increase your sense of social standing and self worth.

In fact, some classes of victim get so much special attention that it results in tangible perks being bestowed on them from society.

It reminds me of hearing about not long after 9/11 of a story of someone who had lost their parent due to a more common cause go around claiming they had lost their parent in the 9/11 attacks.

For whatever reason, they wanted the attention that they knew they would get from people if they connected their loss with an event that would elicit a response from people.

Of course, you don't need to be a victim to want to self identify as a social category you think will get your more attention, respect, sympathy, or whatever.
People have no trouble lying about who they are for attention in a lot of ways.

Given that blacks generally are not an abused of mistreated group in this country anymore, but they get all kinds of special attention, sympathy, or even tangible perks in some cases, there's little to no downside to self identifying as a group that is likely to get you more attention than you think you'd get being white or Jewish.

It's probably not unlike Elizabeth Warren self identifying as Native American for college money and political expediency. There was no downside to identifying that way. They aren't an oppressed people group anymore. They are welcome into society like anyone else. But the benefits that come along with that invented identity gave her the potential to cash in on some special perks and extra attention she otherwise wouldn't have had.

 

[Rise]

White professor at George Washington University admits she lied about being Black

If the left is going to be consistent with themselves, they can't be angry about this.

They are the ones telling people they can self identify as whatever they want without any boundries put up by logic or facts.

They think someone is free to identify as being another sex, or having no sex, or being both sexes at the same time, or being a new made up sex they invented, or all of the above, against all logic and facts, and then if they had their way would demand the government make their delusions a reality with taxpayer healthcare money.

Given that, who are you to tell people they can't identify as whatever race they want?

We already have people trying to identify as another species or another age.

Are we going to use taxpayer money to do plastic surgery on these people to try to make reality line up more closely with their delusions too?

It's not surprising really that the left would think this way though. Because we have the poor unproductive unstable marxists in the streets right now trying to self identify as productive stable rich people and demanding the government make their delusions a reality by redistributing the wealth of other rich people to them.

 

[Nakosis]

Ive met a few people here in California who traveled to North Central Klandiana. They are shocked and flabbergasted at how open and unashamedly racist people are there. I knew it was racist, but had no idea its very racist until I got out and was away from it for a few years and witness far fewer incidents of racism. If there are advantages, theyre table scraps at best.

Not my call. I'll admit to being fairly naive when it comes to racism or why other folks might claim to be one race over another, understanding my experiences with my own family are anecdotal.

 

[Left Coast]

Given that blacks generally are not an abused of mistreated group in this country anymore

Sure, other than:

- median household income
- unemployment rate
- likelihood of being pulled over
- likelihood of being killed in a police encounter
- likelihood of being arrested for drug-related offenses
- length of prison sentences
- likelihood of being put on death row vs. life in prison
- multiple academic studies showing that people are treated differently when the only variable that changes is skin color or having an ethnic name.

But yeah, other than all that black people are totally treated just the same as everyone else.

 

[Brickjectivity]

But it's possible that she perpetrated a fraud upon a university
that expected to get the cache & legitimacy of a diversity hire.

I think state universities are managed as ponzi schemes (planning to grow X percent per year, forever), so they must maintain the appearance of legitimacy or people will question their wasteful spending, misdirected funds, lies to student bodies about fees, etc. That may not be why she is so upset though. Maybe her friends have reacted badly?