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Who Believe the Earth is 6000 Years Old???

s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
FFH said:
Yes and the passage of time is well documented in the Old Testament ...

The Biblical calendar gives us an accurate account of the years that have passed from creation to a certain point at which our Gregorian calendar takes over....

Based on historical accounts these two calendars give us the approximate time that has passed since the first day of creation.

*sigh*

I have a new plan to save our nation's taxpayers Millions (if not Billions!) of dollars. Let's eradicate all departments and disciplines of science from both our primary and collegiate institutions of education and enlightenment!

The Bible (as source) is all we ever need to know to understand thermodynamics, radioactive decay, silicon chips, or gravity.

I wonder when God invented MRI's, or the half-life of cesium clocks that permit GPS technology to attain such pin-point accuracy.

Einstein was a quack!
Hawking is a quark!

Archeologists, geologists, biologists, chemists, cosmologists, mathemeticians, physicists...all are deluded liars in a grand conspiracy to turn us away from God!

"Light-years" are a fantasy!
Global climate change is a hoax!
Fossils are God's practical joke upon a gullible and non-inquisitive species!

Galileo IS a witch!

BURN HIM!

Oops...my cell phone is ringing...it might be God roaming on another carrier...and who needs those added charges?
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
FFH said:
I haven't heard your point of view on this yet....

Come on let's hear it....since you seem to think you have all the answers.

ok. Ready?

I think the earth is quite obviously much older than 6,000 or 13,000 years old.

I have no idea how old the earth is and I am certainly not foolish enough to imagine that I could figure it out.it seems fairly silly to think it is anywhere near 6-13,000 years old based upon what is known about the earth scientifically.

(just my humble opinion of course)
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
FFH said:
Just needed to edit that a bit..

The Biblical calendar/account of events/peoples help us to come to this amount of time. Our calendars take over at a certain point and give us this final figure....

so what do you make of dinosaurs?
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
FFH said:
Yes and the passage of time is well documented in the Old Testament ...

The Biblical calendar gives us an accurate account of the years that have passed from creation to a certain point at which our Gregorian calendar takes over....

Based on historical accounts these two calendars give us the approximate time that has passed since the first day of creation.

accurate according to who?
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
FFH said:
I'm not the only one who thinks this as you can see....Just googled "13.000 year old earth and Bible" and this came up....

A forum discussion on Beliefnet.com

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?discussionID=546053

You are also not the only one who believes that elvis is alive and working undercover as a DEA agent:

http://www.elvis-is-alive.com/

"Elvis Presley, the man, the myth, the legend, the king of rock-n-roll, IS ALIVE and working as an undercover agent for the DEA. For years, the man known only as Elvis to the public, has caused world wide confusion concerning his supposed death on August 16, 1977 after entertaining and dazzling the world for over 20 years. Elvis Aaron Presley, did not die on that fateful day. He was only removed from the public eye to continue in his fight against drug use."
 

*Paul*

Jesus loves you
Just to back up FFH here i also believe that the earth and universe is a young one and many scientists agree, i won't venture to say how young as i wouldn't know but i'd usually say around the time he says - 6-10,000 years. Now where near the billions though or even millions.
 

AbdulRashid

New Member
Aboriginal people in Australia have been on the Earth for over 40.000 years so people need to think about this a bit more. The Bible should not be taken litterally to the point of being pedantic. In Islam the days of God are different from the days of Humans, so I think the answer is no.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
comprehend said:
so what do you make of dinosaurs?
Prior to the flood conditions on earth were much different.

Picture this....

Prior to the flood the earth was not tilted on it's axis/or at least not as much as it is now, and there were no seasons or little change with each season....

There was also a much greater protective covering over the earth which caused a greenhouse affect....

Plants and animals flourished under these conditions, not to mention humans....

Job speaks of a large beast or the largest of the beasts known to him at that time...

Job 40: 15

15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
 

Burchfam

Member
For those that are interested, the Oera Linda Book gives the following chronology:

Wr-alda, the surpreme creator god, created time, and time brought forth the earth (length of pre-earth time unspecified).

After the twelfth Yule-feast, the earth brought forth three sisters, the youngest of whom was Frya, upon whom Wr-alda breathed his spirit (taken literally, this means 12 years, as the Yule-feast is an annual festival).

The three sisters each gave birth to 12 sons and 12 daughters, at each Yuletide a couple (again, 12 years, but see the next point).

After Frya had seen her descendants reach the seventh generation, she called them together and gave them her Tex, or laws (no length of time for each generation is specified. The modern figure is 20 to 25 years, but traditionally it is 33).

After giving her Tex, Frya perished in a conflagration of nature, and ascended to her watch-star. This conflagration also destroyed Atland (i.e. Atlantis).

Events in the Oera Linda Book are dated "After the Submergence of Atland". The last such date, 3449, is also given as 1256 according to the Christian reckoning.

So, from this we can calculate that Atland was submerged, and Frya perished, in 2194 BC. Taking a generation as 33 years, seven generations earlier is 2425 BC. We can add 12 to this to reach 2437 BC, and arguably another 12 (see above) to reach 2449 BC, but all these figures are little more than guesses, since we don't know the length of a generation. It could be thousands of years, thus confrming to the chronology determined by modern science.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
comprehend said:
accurate according to who?
Accurate according to the Bible...

The passage of time from the first day of creation is well documented in the Bible to the point that we know exactly when certain events happened, for instance Moses crossing the Red Sea..

Biblical/Jewish Calendar

Not only do we know what happened in Bible history, but also know when, and to the day in many cases....

Today in Jewish History
War on Benjamin (1188 BC)
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
FFH said:
Accurate according to the Bible...

uh, you just said: the bible is accurate according to the bible.....:bonk:

forgive me if I do not find your logical trainwreck to be terribly compelling.:sleep:
 

FFH

Veteran Member
comprehend said:
uh, you just said: the bible is accurate according to the bible.....:bonk:

forgive me if I do not find your logical trainwreck to be terribly compelling.:sleep:
I'm fully aware of what I said and I said this on purpose for....

....the Bible needs no affirmations, from any man, concerning it's accuracy, as long as it's translated correctly, that is unless you doubt the historical accuracy of the Bible...
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
FFH said:
I'm fully aware of what I said and I said this on purpose for....

....the Bible needs no affirmations, from any man, concerning it's accuracy, as long as it's translated correctly, that is unless you doubt the historical accuracy of the Bible...

do you understand the bible to be 100% literal?

What makes you believe the story in genesis to be 100% literal?
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
FFH said:
It's actually 6,000 for creation, then 1000 years of rest then we need to add 6.000 years from the time Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden until now....

So roughly 13,000 literal years since the first day of creation...
Ok...

Does the fact that the star that this planet orbits is 20,000 light years away (that means it took 20,000 years for the light to get from there to Earth) make you question that timescale at all?
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Job goes on to talk about another great beast, leviathan.

Job 41: 1

1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?

3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?

5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?

6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?

7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?

8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.

9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?

10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.

12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.

13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?

14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.

15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.

16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.

18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.

19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.

20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.

21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.

22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.

23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.

24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.

25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.

26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.

27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.

28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.

29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.

31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.

32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.

33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.

34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
comprehend said:
do you understand the bible to be 100% literal?

What makes you believe the story in genesis to be 100% literal?
A literal historical account with literal dates/time frame, yes.
 
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