Who in your religious view is 'the reconciler of all things' ?

[74x12]

Colossians says you were 'alienated' but through Jesus all things are reconciled, whether on earth or heaven, making peace through the blood of the cross.

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?

And how do you deal with alienation? Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?

true peace is with God as God says in Isaiah 27:5 Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.

So God doesn't want to fight people but hopes they make peace even though He comes with fire.

Jesus is the reconciliation bringing all things back to God restored and whole. As this is what He sits on the right hand to do. And He will sit on the right and until all the enemies of mankind are placed under His feet. Then He will give the kingdom back to the Father restored and complete.

 

[Vinayaka]

“What’s to reconcile?”

Is that supposed to be a thoughtful response?

It seems quite flippant to me. Probably meant to look funny since you did not understand the op.

That's true. I don't understand the paradigm you're from. I'm just the village idiot.

 

[Vinayaka]

According to the biblical scriptures a person's relationship with the Creator God needs to be reconciled.

For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Romans 5:10

Thank you for the serious answer to my serious question. It's outside my thinking, but at least you took my ignorance seriously.

 

[MJFlores]

Colossians says you were 'alienated' but through Jesus all things are reconciled, whether on earth or heaven, making peace through the blood of the cross.

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?

And how do you deal with alienation? Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?

John 3:36 New International Version (NIV)
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

I believe a lot of people are at odds with God
I believe they are people who rejects the Son

And how do you deal with alienation?
Believe in the Son

Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?
Yes and a lot of people have done that and are doing that

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?
The answer is found in:

Ephesians 2:14-17 New International Version (NIV)
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.

The Church established, recognized and owned by Christ is that
New Human, New Creation
God's righteousness to reconcile man to Him
And that's not my opinion but from the Bible

 

[Hockeycowboy]

true peace is with God as God says in Isaiah 27:5 Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.

So God doesn't want to fight people but hopes they make peace even though He comes with fire.

Jesus is the reconciliation bringing all things back to God restored and whole. As this is what He sits on the right hand to do. And He will sit on the right and until all the enemies of mankind are placed under His feet. Then He will give the kingdom back to the Father restored and complete.

Nicely put.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

That's true. I don't understand the paradigm you're from. I'm just the village idiot.

There is greatness in humility....God notices!

I think you'll be ok. I certainly hope so.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Your purpose is the understanding of emptiness? Please explain.

 

[Firemorphic]

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?

And how do you deal with alienation? Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?

Speaking of "alienated", this is very alien to the Islamic view of things, which is ultimately ontologically Nondualistic (all things come from and return to God).
Peace comes from a lot of things, the greatest however is full consciousness/awareness of Ultimate Reality (Allah).

We're not alienated from Ultimate Reality, as it creates and sustains every second of our lives. We are distinct in our experience of duality through this material body, yes, but it is not a defining trait of the nature of existence which is connected.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?
And how do you deal with alienation? Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?

Who is this God person? What is alienation and reconcilliation? Alienation with whom? I am the universe. There is none other. 'Aham Brahmasmi' (I am Brahman), 'Dwiteeyo nasti' (There is no second).

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

There is no such concept of separation from the divine in Heathenry.

 

[syo]

you were 'alienated' but through Jesus all things are reconciled

Yup. But I'm not christian. But I admit Jesus reconciles.

 

[syo]

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?

And how do you deal with alienation? Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?

Tao is everywhere.

 

[Vinayaka]

There is greatness in humility....God notices!

I think you'll be ok. I certainly hope so.

This entire thread belongs in Christianity or Abrahamic DIR. But for some reason unknown to me OP put it in Comparative. I am truly unfamiliar with the concept at all, which I pointed out. So I'm going to be out. Let the folks who are familiar with it have a nice discussion without someone asking for clarification all the time. Peace.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Since it is in Comparative, let me mention that many people have views other than those listed here.

 

[12jtartar]

Colossians says you were 'alienated' but through Jesus all things are reconciled, whether on earth or heaven, making peace through the blood of the cross.

Where does 'peace' come from and reconciliation in your view?

And how do you deal with alienation? Can you remain 'alienated' from God forever?

Whirlingmerc,
This is a very important Religious concept. The Bible is where we should base all our doctrines, we should all be Biblicists. The Bible is very clear on this doctrine; we are reconciled to God, through the Sacrificial death of His son, Jesus, Romans 5:6-11, Ephesians 2:11-20, Colossians 1:19-23.
The Bible tells us that there is only one name, given under heaven, by which we MUST get saved, Acts 4:12. Remember, Jesus willingly gave his life for us, but it was God who was responsible for our salvation, John 3:16, 10:14-18, John 6:44, 14:6. Agape!!!

 

[InChrist]

Fair enough, but the OP asked people in a comparative religion post. Meaning people of any religious persuasion. So the whole premise itself doesn't make sense to those outside of an Abrahamic faith from the start. Which is why some have expressed confusion. Thus adding in their perspective on the matter in the same way.

Yes, it makes sense that since this in the Comparative religion section there would be those who have an entirely different perspective. I appreciate hearing your thoughts.

 

[KelseyR]

I would say that I have reconciled all things. I've perfectly reasoned it all out.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, it makes sense that since this in the Comparative religion section there would be those who have an entirely different perspective. I appreciate hearing your thoughts.

Since you would appreciate hearing our various thoughts, mine is that God is non-existent, it is a fiction of human mind. Since God does not exist the question of Jesus being the son of God is falsehood. Jesus was afflicted by megalomania. There is no God to be reconciled to. Jesus was a trouble maker (like many others in his time), of doubtful paternity, who wanted to start his own cult. This was inconvenient to the Jews as well as Romans. While condemning him to death, the Pilate put the blame squarely on the Jews. For that, the Jews had to suffer atrocities from Christians in history. The resurrection also is a fiction. The followers of Jesus (particularly Paul) turned Jesus' death into a sacrifice with a weird idea that it would somehow remove the sins of people who would accept him as the son of God.

Monotheism is a dangerous thought. 'My view is correct and all others are wrong'. The fictitious God would send people to a fictitious heaven only if the person would accept a particular kind of belief. This view has caused the greatest misery in the world since the time of Moses. The earlier this view is abandoned, the better it would be for humans.

 

[InChrist]

Since you would appreciate hearing our various thoughts, mine is that God is non-existent, it is a fiction of human mind. Since God does not exist the question of Jesus being the son of God is falsehood. Jesus was afflicted by megalomania. There is no God to be reconciled to. Jesus was a trouble maker (like many others in his time), of doubtful paternity, who wanted to start his own cult. This was inconvenient to the Jews as well as Romans. While condemning him to death, the Pilate put the blame squarely on the Jews. For that, the Jews had to suffer atrocities from Christians in history. The resurrection also is a fiction. The followers of Jesus (particularly Paul) turned Jesus' death into a sacrifice with a weird idea that it would somehow remove the sins of people who would accept him as the son of God.

Monotheism is a dangerous thought. 'My view is correct and all others are wrong'. The fictitious God would send people to a fictitious heaven only if the person would accept a particular kind of belief. This view has caused the greatest misery in the world since the time of Moses. The earlier this view is abandoned, the better it would be for humans.

I definitely don't have the same perspective as you do concerning God, Jesus, the resurrection, etc., but I appreciate you taking the time to express your feelings.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Death is the great reconciler of all things and death is inevitable unlike Jesus.