Who is God of this world?

[ThisShouldMakeSense]

Jesus is the same as the father so putting them in the same category in this sense makes no sense.

No he's not and yes it does. :bonk:

 

[ThisShouldMakeSense]

So what are you saying here? That we are all illusions, that the world is an illusion?
That we never existed?

Riven I would like to hear some more on your theories. Although I may not
agree with them, I do tend find them intriguing...a little.

Alright riven, if we built this world, what built us?

I think this might have something to do with the matrix...

 

[Riven]

So what are you saying here? That we are all illusions, that the world is an illusion?
That we never existed?

Riven I would like to hear some more on your theories. Although I may not
agree with them, I do tend find them intriguing...a little.

Alright riven, if we built this world, what built us?

God built us, and he created us as perfect, holy, loving extensions of Himself. And, since God is changeless, and we are part of Him, we are changeless. So, we are still perfect, holy, loving extensions of God. Our true Selves are perfectly peaceful and joyous, at home in God's Kingdom.

This world is an illusion, made by the ego.

 

[Riven]

I think this might have something to do with the matrix...

Very Matrix-like, I agree. However, not based on the Matrix. Several huge differences.

 

[Malus 12:9]

Our true Selves are perfectly peaceful and joyous, at home in God's Kingdom.

Is this your belief or mere fact? If the latter, please expand.

What if one does not believe in God? Is he still perfect; still joyous? If he
does not believe in God, how would this apply?

Changeless? A man can often change his ways. Let's take for example
a drunken, abusive, drug addicted unemployed male. He cleans himself
up a little, gives up the booze and drugs, and at the same time, becomes
a well respected Christian. Is that not change?

 

[Riven]

What if one does not believe in God? Is he still perfect; still joyous? If he
does not believe in God, how would this apply?

Truth doesn't require belief in order to be truth. Thruth simply IS true, no matter what you believe.

Changeless? A man can often change his ways. Let's take for example a drunken, abusive, drug addicted unemployed male. He cleans himself up a little, gives up the booze and drugs, and at the same time, becomes a well respected Christian. Is that not change?

The ego is subject to an enormous amount of variability. The illusory world our egos have created is fickle, chaotic, and senseless. In this world, change is not only possible, but it is a necessary part of maintaining the illusion. The true reality is changeless. It - and we - have always been, are now, and will always be exactly as God created us.

 

[nightwolf]

This is really funny to listen to. I live in the "bible belt" and a christain would swear they are right without using spirit to concur and using texts alone. Maybe we are all wrong, I mean would God really want us to be able to place an identity on him. What if God was just the maker of all living things and it all ends there? 95% of world religions would be wrong. But I really doubt I will hear anyone admit to that.

 

[ThisShouldMakeSense]

God built us, and he created us as perfect, holy, loving extensions of Himself. And, since God is changeless, and we are part of Him, we are changeless. So, we are still perfect, holy, loving extensions of God. Our true Selves are perfectly peaceful and joyous, at home in God's Kingdom.

This world is an illusion, made by the ego.

Hi RIVEN,

I'm not familiar with your religion. could you tell me which 'catergory' it falls into? ie, is it bible based etc. thanks.

 

[glasgowchick]

Isa 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
So you say the Lord of Hosts lies!

Hi Ronald, There is Only One True God which in Turn means any other god must be a false god because all other so called gods are created, The bible talks about those who make themselves gods, It talks about people worshiping other gods, But the Bible does reffer to satan being the god of this world. But not in the same sense you could be thinking because we know everything in the world belongs to God the creator, However, Israel was compared to being gods and it was God that said to them " you are gods" But I believe when God was calling them gods he was comparing them to the other nations. Either way, any other God apart from the one true God is false So there are no other Gods besides Him..

 

[Nitai]

Hare Krishna

The Vedic definition of God goes as follows: "That personality who is full with all six opulence's, namely wealth, power, fame, beauty, knowledge and renunciation is certainly the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

This opulence's were found in Krishna when He was present in this earth planet before 5000 years ago. The same opulence's are ascribed to Jehovah in the Bible and Allah in the Koran. Therefor, the Natural conclusion is that there is one God with many names who is the Lord and master of all living entities. He is the maintainer of everybody with His six opulence's.

Please, chant Hare Krishna and be happy.
Nitai

 

[Riven]

Hi RIVEN,

I'm not familiar with your religion. could you tell me which 'catergory' it falls into? ie, is it bible based etc. thanks.

Most people throw it into the New Age category.