Shushersbedamned
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And for whom are you shifting your responsibilities to this time? (If they do it once they'll do it again.)
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Who is responsible for a suicide?
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Society's lack of wisdom.
We tend to ignore rather obvious social and structural needs out of vanity, fear, pride or simple ignorance.
Shushersbedamned
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If society is lacking wisdom, what is the full amount of It?
Still their life though - whose else is it? Yes, I've had depression too. The problem with the societal bit is that it applies to virtually everything, so where does one draw the line?
Shushersbedamned
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And what?
Jumi
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Usually it isn't clear cut who is responsible.
Was the government responsible for the school that taught him harmful ways to cope? Was it fault of his genetics, his dreams being impossible to achieve? Was it the alcohol or the girlfriends who lead him wrong... was it the father he blamed? Or something else.
Was the government responsible for the school that taught him harmful ways to cope? Was it fault of his genetics, his dreams being impossible to achieve? Was it the alcohol or the girlfriends who lead him wrong... was it the father he blamed? Or something else.
Shushersbedamned
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"Still their life thou-whose else is It?"
Shushersbedamned
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No. If you shift your responsibility of this matter to others you will and have shifted other matters to others. EtcHow does someone commit suicide more than once?
Excuse me? I don't understand your question. May you please word it differently?
I may be misunderstanding you. But how do I shift a responsibility that wasn't mine in the first place?
Shushersbedamned
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Because you know it will happen again. And how do you know you have not had such a responsibility?
Shushersbedamned
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You say society is lacking wisdom. Means you think it has an insufficient amount of it. When we have an insufficient amount of something we must have something we relate it to. I.e. empty & full
Shushersbedamned
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Because the help isn't helping.
Jumi
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What do you suggest?
I think if people took more responsibility for their own behaviour, including what we are talking about here, then perhaps they wouldn't see themselves as victims and/or powerless to do something that might change their lives. I think it often is this sense of having no power over one's life that can cause such depression and feelings of suicide.
I don't know how one can change it for any particular individual since we all vary so much. But having a sense of purpose is one way for many to get over such things. You are right that others often affect how we feel and many hardly help at all, even if they notice. In my case people just ignored as I slid into depression - they often just get on with their own lives. It's a harsh truth, but as I said, it's our own life, no one else's.
Shushersbedamned
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Stop doing what you're doing and try to feel the pain.
Are you then asking what would be enough wisdom?
It should be obvious that it would be enough to understand and correct the factors that make suicide necessary - or, at the very least, to detect their manifestation in time to counteract.