Who is the greater sinner?

[kylixguru]

1) A man came as a great warrior and committed much evil, murdering, raping and
plundering.

2) And another came after him in the guise of righteousness, perverting the people's minds to false notions, blinding them to the truth, binding the hearts and minds of men to mental slavery from generation to generation.

Who is the greater sinner?

 

[Storm]

I don't believe in sin, but with that stipulation, I'll play.

1 is evil, 2 is probably just misguided. And possibly actually right.

 

[kylixguru]

I don't believe in sin, but with that stipulation, I'll play.

1 is evil, 2 is probably just misguided. And possibly actually right.

Good point, perhaps I should have worded it "Which is the greater evil?"

Let's assume that for sake of this poll that both individuals know they are trespassing others.

The first is trespassing their physical body.
The second is trespassing their spiritual body.

Which is the more evil thing to trespass?

 

[Storm]

With that detail, I'd say that it's a toss up.

 

[savagewind]

The false teacher will have given the murderer license to do murder. And a false teacher will not have prepared the victims to defend themselves. The false teacher is worse times two.

 

[Storm]

Moving the goal posts.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

1) A man came as a great warrior and committed much evil, murdering, raping and
plundering.

2) And another came after him in the guise of righteousness, perverting the people's minds to false notions, blinding them to the truth, binding the hearts and minds of men to mental slavery from generation to generation.

Who is the greater sinner?

Neither, because God (the Father and the Son) cannot sin.

 

[kylixguru]

With that detail, I'd say that it's a toss up.

It really is isn't it!
I haven't fully made up my mind yet.
I'm leaning toward the second because if I'm physically alive I would wish to do so with a clear and free-thinking mind that embraces truth. Otherwise, I think I would rather be dead.

 

[kylixguru]

Moving the goal posts.

Will you please indicate whose reply you are responding to?
I'd like to understand what you are trying to communicate.

 

[kylixguru]

Neither, because God (the Father and the Son) cannot sin.

Am I reading something in here you aren't intending?

Are you saying the Father is #1 and the Son is #2?

 

[Storm]

Will you please indicate whose reply you are responding to?
I'd like to understand what you are trying to communicate.

Whoops, scratch that.

I was responding to savagewind, but under the mistaken impression I was responding to you. So, with that confusion cleared up, my comment is inapplicable.

:sorry1:

However, anytime I DON'T quote the post I'm responding to, it's a safe bet I'm addressing the one immediately preceding.

 

[dantech]

Am I reading something in here you aren't intending?

Are you saying the Father is #1 and the Son is #2?

I think he/she is assuming you are talking about Jesus...

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Am I reading something in here you aren't intending?

Are you saying the Father is #1 and the Son is #2?

If the shoe fits, walk a mile in it.

 

[kylixguru]

Whoops, scratch that.

I was responding to savagewind, but under the mistaken impression I was responding to you. So, with that confusion cleared up, my comment is inapplicable.

:sorry1:

However, anytime I DON'T quote the post I'm responding to, it's a safe bet I'm addressing the one immediately preceding.

Gotcha!
Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[savagewind]

Moving the goal posts.

I knew you were talking about me. I don't think I have. I'm looking at the problem from a philosophical pov. The murderer is a murderer and a bad man because no one has convinced him otherwise.

 

[kylixguru]

If the shoe fits, walk a mile in it.

It may or may not fit them.
Would you please elaborate on how you see that it could?

 

[kylixguru]

I think he/she is assuming you are talking about Jesus...

Ah, likely so.
I'm just wondering if taking it all the way back to Jesus is where it belongs.
Seems to me there have been no shortage of people eager to do such in the name of Jesus.

 

[Storm]

I knew you were talking about me. I don't think I have. I'm looking at the problem from a philosophical pov. The murderer is a murderer and a bad man because no one has convinced him otherwise.

See post 11 - it was a case of mistaken identity. You're quite right that you were not moving the goal posts, and I said so. I mistakenly thought that kg was adding conditions to argue my response, which would have been a textbook case.

Again, I apologize for my error and the resulting confusion.

 

[Me Myself]

Depends on what is that he is teaching wrong I guess.

 

[kylixguru]

I mistakenly thought that kg was adding conditions to argue my response, which would have been a textbook case.

I would only have made statements designed to make the poll more clear and objective so that the results were more meaningful.
I'm not trying to say there is a right or wrong answer on this question.
I am just very interested in hearing what people's answers will be when the two evils are compared.