Who is to blame for not putting people back to work !!

[james dixon]

Who is to blame for not putting people back to work !!
McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked legislation on Thursday that would have reopened most of the federal government impacted by the partial shutdown.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) tried to get consent to take up a House-passed bill that would reopen all agencies except the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is at the center of the shutdown fight. But McConnell objected.

McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government

Mitch McConnell Jr. (born February 20, 1942) is an American politician serving as Kentucky’s senior United States Senator and as Senate Majority Leader. McConnell is the second Kentuckian to lead his party in the Senate and is the longest-serving U.S. Senator from Kentucky in history.

A member of the Republican Party, McConnell was elected to the Senate in 1984 and has been re-elected five times since then.


If you are a citizen living in Kentucky, I employ you to gather whomever you can gather together and visit McConnell, at his home and plead to him (peacefully) to re-open our government NOW!!!!!!

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[Mindmaster]

If you are a citizen living in Kentucky, I employ you to gather whomever you can gather together and visit McConnell, at his home and plead to him (peacefully) to re-open our government NOW!!!!!!

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No, please, do not visit the man at his house. For Frank's Sake...

Anyway, an extended shutdown mostly effects Democrats, since they're most of the employed government workers. The irony, of course, is amazing as always.

Pelosi and Schumer could end the shutdown in about five freaking minutes, Trump has been dangling the carrots that they've claimed to want in front of their nose for awhile. But, apparently, they're too mentally challenged to understand that it's. O.K., to give someone what they want so long as you get something you wanted.

So, if you wanna call anyone, call your local Democrats and let them know that there is no shame in trading a wall for other things that they want. If it goes to critical levels where well-being is greatly affected Trump will just declare a national emergency, fund the wall from that, and laugh. He'll get his wall either way, so I don't really see what the point of their antics are. It's just another Kavanaugh hearing as far as I'm concerned, a stunt.

 

[james dixon]

Trump will just declare a national emergency, fund the wall from that, and laugh.

Yes, he will laugh as he is being escorted out of the White House and once they reach the public street he will ask for his limo but nowhere could it be found so he flagged the nearest taxi for a ride.

But the moment the taxi driver could see who was flagging him; the taxi driver said;;;;;-- NO WAY, THIS BUM DOESN'T PAY THE FAIR!!!!!!

and drives away -

 

[Mindmaster]

Yes, he will laugh as he is being escorted out of the White House and once they reach the public street he will ask for his limo but nowhere could it be found so he flagged the nearest taxi for a ride.

But the moment the taxi driver could see who was flagging him; the taxi driver said;;;;;-- NO WAY, THIS BUM DOESN'T PAY THE FAIR!!!!!!

and drives away -

I find your capacity for fantasy entertaining, but that's about it.

 

[shunyadragon]

tRump claimed he was responsible and proud of it from the beginning.

 

[Revoltingest]

tRump claimed he was responsible and proud of it from the beginning.

And you believe him?

 

[shunyadragon]

And you believe him?

I believe he believed it from the beginning.

For anything in the world of substance I do not believe tRump.

 

[Revoltingest]

I believe he believed it from the beginning.
For anything in the world of substance I do not believe tRump.

I voted for him, but even I know to not trust what he says.
I think he said it for political effect, fully expecting the Dems
would shut it down by sending him a bill doomed to fail.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

So far, I mostly blame Mitch McConnell. He's the one who's actively blocked progress.

After that, I blame both Trump and the Republican senators. McConnell seems to be working on Trump's orders. The senators could stop Mcconnell's obstruction by removing him as Senate Majority Leader; they've chosen not to.

 

[shunyadragon]

I voted for him, but even I know to not trust what he says.
I think he said it for political effect, fully expecting the Dems
would shut it down by sending him a bill doomed to fail.

Only because tRump's decision to shut down the government. tRump shut down the government and he said he was proud of it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Only because tRump's decision to shut down the government. tRump shut down the government and he said he was proud of it.

It was also the Dems' decision to not send him a bill he'd approve.
They've so far refused to do so.
It's important to recognize that intransigence on both sides created
this shutdown. And both sides are continuing it.

 

[shunyadragon]

It was also the Dems' decision to not send him a bill he'd approve.
They've so far refused to do so.
It's important to recognize that intransigence on both sides created
this shutdown. And both sides are continuing it.

It is tRump's one sided demand his way or the highway that shut down the government.

Your hedging and side stepping the FACT that tRump said he is shutting down the government and proud of it.

 

[columbus]

It was also the Dems' decision to not send him a bill he'd approve.

There is a bipartisan budget that passed both houses on Capitol Hill on Trump's desk. He won't sign it because he also wants something else. Something that the American people don't want, and so their elected Representatives are not doing it.
Talking about these two things as equivalent is the sort of false equivalence you are justifiably known for.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

There is a bipartisan budget that passed both houses on Capitol Hill on Trump's desk.

You've missed that this is a battle between Trump & the Democrats.
The fact that some Republicans will sign onto a bill which he will reject
doesn't change this fact. Democrats must work with him.
It is up to Trump & the Democrats to craft an agreement to re-fund government.

Talking about these two things as equivalent is the sort of false equivalence you are justifiably known for.
Tom

Geeze Louise...you rabid liberals so misunderstand just what false equivalency is.
Who on Earth trains you to lob that shibboleth at every chance?

 

[columbus]

You seem to have missed that this is a battle between Trump & the Democrats.

This is not just between Trump and the Democrats. The Republicans haven't passed one for two years either.
No, this is between Trump and the American people. They happen to be represented by the House of Representatives.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

T . The Republicans haven't passed one for two years either.

Not relevant.
The Dems need to negotiate with Trump, & deliver a bill he can sign.
It will take both of them to wise up, & end the shutdown.
Party history doesn't change this.

 

[Thief]

Who is to blame for not putting people back to work !!

robots.....

 

[Revoltingest]

robots.....

Don't anger them.

 

[shunyadragon]

Not relevant.
The Dems need to negotiate with Trump, & deliver a bill he can sign.
It will take both of them to wise up, & end the shutdown.
Party history doesn't change this.

You are still neglecting the Republicans in Congress in this negotiation to justify your agenda for tRump.

 

[Revoltingest]

You are still neglecting the Republicans in Congress in this negotiation to justify your agenda for tRump.

- Congressional Republicans are far less significant in the Trump v Democrats standoff.
- I've no agenda for Trump personally.
- I advocate policies & actions, ie, results.
- I don't care which side "wins" this battle, so long as we return to normal operation.