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Who is Watching The Watchmen?

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
The comic is utterly fantastic. :D
Indeed there are a lot of things that got left out of the movie that work on very profound levels in the comic... such as the Tales of the Black Freighter story line.

I hear they are going to release that separately as its own mini-movie, perhaps this month.

You could spend years pulling the graphic novel apart for its meanings. :cool:

Still, movies are by their nature limited things that can only keep you watching for so long and have to cram the whole story into that package.
I was amazed how quick the movie went by despite its three hour time frame!

wa:do
 

Yes Man

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Just came back from seeing it. Have to say that I was pleasantly surprised with it. It's a decent adaptation but I would still recommend everyone reads the book.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
I recently "acquired" the Watchmen Animated Comic. I just started it. It's the comic book with sort of an animated feel. A must have for some one who is visually impaired. The narration is done well. So far so good. I want to see the movie. I may see it today. I wanted to make sure everyone piled in to see it then when all the hoopla dies down I'd go see it.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, hopefully you'll see it legally instead of screwing over the artists again.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
The comic is utterly fantastic. :D
Indeed there are a lot of things that got left out of the movie that work on very profound levels in the comic... such as the Tales of the Black Freighter story line.

I hear they are going to release that separately as its own mini-movie, perhaps this month.

You could spend years pulling the graphic novel apart for its meanings. :cool:

Still, movies are by their nature limited things that can only keep you watching for so long and have to cram the whole story into that package.
I was amazed how quick the movie went by despite its three hour time frame!

wa:do
Yeah, the Black Freighter animation will be on the dvd as well as an addition;l 25 minuets or so.
Definitely the best Moore translation to film thus far, but far from perfect. The disappointments and the successes are about equal for me- I just wish Aronofsky had been able to tackle the project instead of Snyder. ..
Definitely worth seeing, but far inferior to the source material.

SLIGHT SPOILERS******
And yah, I'm a fanboy who ranted against the changed ending. It makes ense in that they omited all the subplots leading up to it, but it failed to capture that cosmic sense of sych an epic event leading to peace.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I have to say, I really liked the change. While the original ending was good for the 1980's, I'm not sure it would have played well to audiences today.

It still keeps the spirit of the source material...

Not to mention that all the subplots leading up to it would have made it a much more difficult movie to follow... and far longer.

I don't think any movie adaptation will ever be perfect, comic and movies are wildly different in scope and abilities.

wa:do
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
I saw it and it was really good. The change at the end made sense to me as I never liked the whole squid from outspace thing anyway. Highly recommended and I can't wait to see the Black Freighter bit.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
I have to say, I really liked the change. While the original ending was good for the 1980's, I'm not sure it would have played well to audiences today.

It still keeps the spirit of the source material...

Not to mention that all the subplots leading up to it would have made it a much more difficult movie to follow... and far longer.

I don't think any movie adaptation will ever be perfect, comic and movies are wildly different in scope and abilities.

wa:do
I agree. The comic is truly epic, and anything short of a mini-series wouldn't be able to capture the comic's scope. I'll give Snyder credit though; Watchmen is a definite improvement in his directing skills compared to the unnecessary Dawn' remake and the laughably bad 300.
Here's the Black Freighter trailer.
 
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rojse

RF Addict
"The Watchmen" was one of the best films I've seen in ages. Stylish, not afraid to be gory and violent when required (makes a nice change from the normal attitude that it needs to be achieve a certain rating), and disregards all of the clichés that superhero movies normally have.
 

rojse

RF Addict
I haven't read the book and I'm not into comics

Why the dislike for comics? I haven't read the Watchmen comics yet (am going to now I have seen the movie) but when there are comic books (or graphic novels, whichever way you wish to put it) that can win a Pulitzer prize (Maus), I think they have come of age.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Well, hopefully you'll see it legally instead of screwing over the artists again.

Uhh, yeah...like some one else just said.....

Yep..I didn't pay for it but what's makes you think I stole it?:sarcastic

Judgmental are you??????

I acquired it doesn't imply stolen. The DVD series was loaned to me.....

SHEESH....!!!
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Sasha at the AV Club basically says everything that I wish I'd said:
Book Vs. Film: Watchmen | Books | A.V. Club

Though I think I liked the film a bit less than her, like her, I was bothered by the change of Rorschach's line while in prison, and the obvious film mistake in the same scene. Really Snyder?!?!? While I loved the dedication in reflecting the visuals onto the big screen, a little more attention to the dialogue, screenplay and better acting (in the case of Akerman and Goode) would've elevated the film for me.
 

Ralph C.

This is the....end.
Note: This is an edited post, changed on 03/14/2009. Today I wrote something for another website and decided to post this here, too. The basic essence of what I was saying still remains but there's a bit more to it.

Whenever I go to see a movie that adapts a character/characters or a book to the big screen, I hope that the essence of the character or book is captured in the movie. When you adapt something to the big screen, there are always going to be changes, modifications and such, because of the difference between the storytelling in books and comics and movies, however slightly one might think of the differences. The first "Spider-Man" film, for example, captured the essence of that character very well, though the movie wasn't a complete literal translation of the comic book character.

I saw the movie Thursday night with my girlfriend. I thought the "Watchmen" movie captured the essence of the graphic novel. I enjoyed the film, thought the acting was well-done, the story coherent, and the visual experience arresting, at times.

I tried to watch it with two sets of eyes-- one set seeing how well it adapted the novel, the other set trying to see it as someone who never read the novel. My girlfriend is someone who had never read the novel. I asked her afterwards if she enjoyed it, was able to follow the story, were there any plot holes, questions of that nature. She told me she liked it a lot and was able to follow the story, explaining to me what it was about, demostrating that she was able to follow it. We did this as the credits rolled. When I like a movie, I stay in the theater until the credits and such run out, to show my appreciation of the effort the filmmakers made. This is an unseen appreciation, to be sure, for the filmmakers will never know I was there until the very, very end of the movie.

So, based on our viewpoints, I think "Watchmen" accomplished that rare feat of pleasing both types of audiences: readers and non-readers of the graphic novel.

The secondary effect of how well the movie was done: I want to read "Watchmen" again.

The desired secondary effect of the creators, financers and distributors of the film: I want to see it again.

The wishful effect for the secondary market for the film: I can't wait for it to come out on DVD (I'm not a Blue-Ray'er at this time).

Now if DC can fix Superman and Batman....

(For a good review of this movie, complete with spoilers [if you haven't seen it yet], please use this link:

Comic Coverage: At The Movies: WATCHMEN (Spoilers)

And if you like what you read, please take a look at the other posts he has made in his blog. It's a comic-book blog with lots of history of comics and other fun stuff. I get no payments or anything for mentioning that blog-- I just like it a lot!)
 
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I think the blood should have been more realistic in appearance.
I love the violent parts and Mr. Rosoarch's(I know that's not his proper name but oh well) mask.
I love the cemetery scene.
My brother had the graphic novel but I haven't had a chance to read it yet. I can't wait to read it!!
And of course, I love Desolation Row(the song at the end).
9.5/10 for me.


~Biggest My Chemical Romance fan ever.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
A nice cut of meat. They trimmed a lot of the fat, most of it the audience didn’t need. Focused on the mystery of the Comedian’s death but at the expense of the impending doom of a looming WWIII.

Added a (surprisingly) plausible alternative ending not found in the novel.

Could have used a touch more vision and character development. Technologically speaking, it looked great but could have used more soul.

Musical selections misplaced and inappropriate. They were a bit jarring when they appeared.

Gritty, dark vigilante does not automatically equal gruff voice. Jackie Haley makes a better attempt than Christian Bale's "Cookie Monster Batman" but the stereotyped characterization is quickly becoming as unwelcomed and outdated as the Afro Americans displayed in Amos –n- Andy comedies.

Long-winded, staid, tired, drawn out comic speak that looked as painful to execute as the fight scenes.

Overall a decent adaption and a tip of the hat to the creators for making the film nobody said could be filmed.

GREAT THEATER MOMENTS (for better effect, use the gruff Rorschach Journal voice)

March 17, 2009

In the first ten minutes, a mother quickly rushes her 5 year old daughter out of the theater. She doesn’t return. I wonder what she expected from a rated R movie. Will she get her money back? Will she do the disservice of giving her friends an opinion about this movie even though she didn’t see it?

An hour and forty three minutes into the film the guy next to me starts to breathe heavy but I chalk it up to the naked depravity and fornication displayed on the screen. Moments later, he begins to snore; loudly. He doesn’t awake until the last 30 minutes. He will probably not recommend this film to his friends on the basis that it was so boring he fell asleep.
 
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rojse

RF Addict
An hour and forty three minutes into the film the guy next to me starts to breathe heavy but I chalk it up to the naked depravity and fornication displayed on the screen. Moments later, he begins to snore; loudly. He doesn’t awake until the last 30 minutes. He will probably not recommend this film to his friends on the basis that it was so boring he fell asleep.

I know that's a gentle jab from the "movies you walked out of thread," but there is a reason that the man fell asleep, and I would have to listen to his statement on why this was so.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
I know that's a gentle jab from the "movies you walked out of thread," but there is a reason that the man fell asleep, and I would have to listen to his statement on why this was so.
If this man told me that it was cheaper than a hotel, I could understand.
 
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