who rules the world

[Super Universe]

Dear Miss May, I would like to ask you a question. If you had to choose, which would you pick, Jehovah's Witness teachings or God's?

Since the writings are that Satan will be cast out, isn't it possible that it's already happened? But then you wouldn't have an excuse for why people do bad things other than people making a bad choice.

Your post, John 16:11, "...because the ruler of this work has been judged," sure sounds to me like Satan isn't in power anymore. But this wouldn't make sense to JW's because you think the earth is to become like heaven and you don't see it.

Why don't you see the gardens? Only because you choose not to see them. What Kingdom Hall has a flower garden? None.

Satan cast out of heaven in 1914? The bible does not say this but the Jehovah's Witness publications do. So you have decided, you choose the Jehovah's Witness teachings over God's.

Also, if you do a little research you'll find that one of these publications announced the end of the world was coming in 1914, then again in 1915, then once again in 1917.

Lucifer is an excuse used by those who refuse to take responsibility for the world we live in. He is a misguided angel who knew he was about to be replaced by Christ so he rebelled and was removed.

 

[may]

Dear Miss May, I would like to ask you a question. If you had to choose, which would you pick, Jehovah's Witness teachings or God's?

Since the writings are that Satan will be cast out, isn't it possible that it's already happened? But then you wouldn't have an excuse for why people do bad things other than people making a bad choice.

Your post, John 16:11, "...because the ruler of this work has been judged," sure sounds to me like Satan isn't in power anymore. But this wouldn't make sense to JW's because you think the earth is to become like heaven and you don't see it.

Why don't you see the gardens? Only because you choose not to see them. What Kingdom Hall has a flower garden? None.

Satan cast out of heaven in 1914? The bible does not say this but the Jehovah's Witness publications do. So you have decided, you choose the Jehovah's Witness teachings over God's.

Also, if you do a little research you'll find that one of these publications announced the end of the world was coming in 1914, then again in 1915, then once again in 1917.

Lucifer is an excuse used by those who refuse to take responsibility for the world we live in. He is a misguided angel who knew he was about to be replaced by Christ so he rebelled and was removed.

sticking to the bible which after all is the inspired word of God is the way to go ,that is why i use the channel that Jesus is feeding in this time of the end matthew 24;45-47 and they gives really good spiritual food because this channel is feeding from Jesus hand and it is all bible based good food .......... nice satan has been cast out of the heavens already ,and it happened when Jesus became a warrior king in 1914 , yes Jesus recieved the kingship because he is the rightful heir to the throne Daniel 7;13-14
Ezekiel 21:27. yes its all happening in this time of the end .Daniel 12;4 and when Jesus goes into action , then satan and all the denoms will be put out of the way. yes satan will be out of action for a 1000 years revelation 20;1-3
And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while........................ no more misleading of the nations for 1000 years , make no mistake about it ,the book of revelation is well and truely being revealed and uncovered in these the last days. and its all happening just as revelation 12;12 tells us . faithfulness leads to great blessings from Jesus and the proggresive understanding goes on . thrilling times indeed for those who have ears to listen . i think it is great the way that Jehovahs people have progressed in the understanding over the years ,and now in the time of the end the true knowledge is abundant indeed Daniel 12;4 remaining faithful gives great blessing . yes i love to do research about the early beginnings and the way the true knowledge is now abundant. not sure what you mean about seeing gardens i love my garden and just think when the whole earth is back to paradise conditions it will be one big garden . Jehovahs people are very busy doing the important work that Jesus told them to do , so saving lives is more important at this point in time . matthew 28;19-20 matthew 24;14
The great day of Jehovah is near. It is near, and there is a hurrying [of it] very much Zepheniah1 ;14
For [the] vision is yet for the appointed time, and it keeps panting on to the end, and it will not tell a lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late. habbakuk 2;3

 

[Heneni]

Ive just been pondering about this thread for a while and the following thought occured to me:

Adam ruled the earth first

Then that rule was given over to satan

Then jesus was tempted with it

Then jesus took the earth back and gave it to man

And now...man...although wicked....is ruling it again.

But WHO is ruling satan?

If i think about revelation....and i think about the women on the beast...im wondering if old nick isnt the servant of man right now.

 

[sojourner]

If the world has a "ruler," surely it's an omnipotent God. But my question is this: Why does earth need a "ruler?" Perhaps it's time we trashed the old model of God, which is based upon military symbolism of "ruler" and "spiritual warfare," and find a new model, which is based upon love, mercy and the empowerment of the human family.

 

[Heneni]

I guess if god wanted to rule the earth he wouldnt have told adam...rule and dominate. But he didnt mean, rule and dominate each other.

The new earth, im sure will be ruled in a very different way.

But right now...im thinking that the beast is being controlled by humans...and according to revelations

this is what will happen

. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast.

So the beast is not the one with authority at the moment. The kings are. And they are human. When they give their power to the beast....

Watch what the beast does...like a true judas, it turns against them.

Revelation17: 16The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

The prostitute is the women who was riding the beast before....

The beast turns against the prostitute. That reminds me...judas betrayed jesus...and here the beast betrays the prostitute.

Heneni

 

[sojourner]

New earth? Are we not living in the "new earth" now, in the post Christ-event era?

 

[Heneni]

Have you seen a lion and a lamb lie together? No...this is not the new earth.

Heneni

 

[sojourner]

Have you seen a lion and a lamb lie together? No...this is not the new earth.

Heneni

I have seen trust and forgiveness work many miracles within strange relationships. Perhaps we're just not looking through the correct lenses at this world we have inherited.