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Who should he held responsible for a pregnancy.

Who should be held responsible for a pregnancy

  • The female

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The male

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Both

    Votes: 21 95.5%

  • Total voters
    22

We Never Know

No Slack

From your link...
"The theoretical issue of male ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy outside the uterine cavity) by surgical implantation has been addressed by experts in the field of fertility medicine, who stress that the concept of ectopic implantation, while theoretically plausible, has never been attempted and would be difficult to justify – even for a woman lacking a uterus – owing to the extreme health risks to both the parent and child.[10][11]"

That one paragraph says enough.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Who should he held responsible for a pregnancy.
Not pointing blame, seeking opinions.

Males can impregnate two or more ovulating females a day while the female can only get pregnant around once per month.

"Current knowledge indicates that females are born with their entire lifetime supply of eggs(gametes). At birth, the normal female ovary contains about 1-2 million/oocytes (eggs). Females are not capable of making new eggs, and in fact, there is a continuous decline in the total number of eggs each month."

Normal Ovarian Function

"Males however produce new sperm every day, but a full sperm regeneration cycle (spermatogenesis) takes about 64 days.

How Long Does It Take for Sperm to Regenerate? Tips for Production

Well I will be off for a few days but wanted to address the votes.
8 for both
1 for males

However its generally 100 % the females choice of what happens, not both.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Life owns responsibility for choice.

Two humans. Want sex. Both know the woman owns being pregnant.

Maybe men should get their sperm removed and put in a sperm bank now man's science is in control.

And let equal mean equal as fairs fair. As women have been abused by you since forever. You should take some personal responsibility yourselves for once.

As life is natural but man's choices he says rules.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
From your link...
"The theoretical issue of male ectopic pregnancy (pregnancy outside the uterine cavity) by surgical implantation has been addressed by experts in the field of fertility medicine, who stress that the concept of ectopic implantation, while theoretically plausible, has never been attempted and would be difficult to justify – even for a woman lacking a uterus – owing to the extreme health risks to both the parent and child.[10][11]"

That one paragraph says enough.
I said it was a theoretical possibility.

And for the risk of ectopic pregnancies, some states in the US don't allow for abortions even in the case of an ectopic pregnancy so it can't be that bad, can it?

But most of all, I like the thought that in the future, when the problems have been sorted out, a male can be made to carry the fetus to term if the female doesn't want to. How fast do you think would the laws be changed to make abortion a holy right?
 

Suave

Simulated character
Who should he held responsible for a pregnancy.
Not pointing blame, seeking opinions.

Males can impregnate two or more ovulating females a day while the female can only get pregnant around once per month.

"Current knowledge indicates that females are born with their entire lifetime supply of eggs(gametes). At birth, the normal female ovary contains about 1-2 million/oocytes (eggs). Females are not capable of making new eggs, and in fact, there is a continuous decline in the total number of eggs each month."

Normal Ovarian Function

"Males however produce new sperm every day, but a full sperm regeneration cycle (spermatogenesis) takes about 64 days.

How Long Does It Take for Sperm to Regenerate? Tips for Production

Takes two to tango!
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
To me its a touchy subject

If she doesn't want a baby, and he does, he has no choice when she aborts it.

If she wants a baby and he doesnt, he again has no choice and pays child support for 18 years.

Point is it took them both to get pregnant, both should have a say in someway.

The burden for the woman is that she is the one who bears the burden of housing and bringing the fetus to term. The man shares none of this. The burden for the man is he has no say in what she does until and if a baby is born.

Each have their own burdens to bear.
 

Bathos Logos

Active Member
If I had for example a dog that got pregnant and I made sure she lost those pups before they were born, I would be looked at as an evil person.
The world has gone crazy lol
But what if you could inform the dog of all that lay ahead, informed it that its progeny would be a mix of itself and whatever male dog had (likely forcefully) mated with it, and gave it an informed choice in the matter? Would you then be evil if the dog took you up on an offer to terminate the pregnancy?

That's more closely analogous to the human circumstances that we call "abortion."
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Who should he held responsible for a pregnancy.
Not pointing blame, seeking opinions.

Males can impregnate two or more ovulating females a day while the female can only get pregnant around once per month.

"Current knowledge indicates that females are born with their entire lifetime supply of eggs(gametes). At birth, the normal female ovary contains about 1-2 million/oocytes (eggs). Females are not capable of making new eggs, and in fact, there is a continuous decline in the total number of eggs each month."

Normal Ovarian Function

"Males however produce new sperm every day, but a full sperm regeneration cycle (spermatogenesis) takes about 64 days.

How Long Does It Take for Sperm to Regenerate? Tips for Production

Kind of too bad anyone needs to be held responsible.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
To elaborate 'responsibility' has multiple dictionary definitions depending on the context.
If 'held responsible' is being used as an accepting that something was a consequence of something else, I fully agree. Pregnancy is one of the things that can happen as a result of having sex, protected or otherwise. It happens as a result of a behavior preformed by both sperm donor and egg donor.

If you mean 'held responsible' as in set upon those people a duty or obligation to behave a particular way, eg complete the pregnancy or get an abortion, then I fully disagree. One doesn't follow the other.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
If 'held responsible' is being used as an accepting that something was a consequence of something else, I fully agree. Pregnancy is one of the things that can happen as a result of having sex, protected or otherwise. It happens as a result of a behavior preformed by both sperm donor and egg donor.
And the responsibility can go far beyond the couple having the sex.

For instance, a school board that got rid of the condom dispensers in high school bathrooms or a church that instilled an aversion to birth control medication in their parishoners took steps that greatly increased the odds that, for the people affected, sex would result in an unwanted pregnancy. I would say that those people and groups share in the responsibility for many pregnancies.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
To elaborate 'responsibility' has multiple dictionary definitions depending on the context.
If 'held responsible' is being used as an accepting that something was a consequence of something else, I fully agree. Pregnancy is one of the things that can happen as a result of having sex, protected or otherwise. It happens as a result of a behavior preformed by both sperm donor and egg donor.

I interpreted it as in being prone to face legal consequences, whatever they may be, of this event.

If you mean 'held responsible' as in set upon those people a duty or obligation to behave a particular way, eg complete the pregnancy or get an abortion, then I fully disagree. One doesn't follow the other.

Hardly anything would 'follow the other' using this standard though.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I voted <both>
But there will be asymmetric rights & responsibilities.
Yes...there is gender discrimination.
But it makes sense in some circumstances.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I interpreted it as in being prone to face legal consequences, whatever they may be, of this event.
Since nothing about law was mentioned, I didn't.
Hardly anything would 'follow the other' using this standard though.
As it shouldn't. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is usually false. It doesn't follow that having sex and getting pregnant means you are legally or morally obligated to continue that pregnancy.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
And the responsibility can go far beyond the couple having the sex.

For instance, a school board that got rid of the condom dispensers in high school bathrooms or a church that instilled an aversion to birth control medication in their parishoners took steps that greatly increased the odds that, for the people affected, sex would result in an unwanted pregnancy. I would say that those people and groups share in the responsibility for many pregnancies.
These are two different matters to me.
Understanding and accepting that having sex can result in pregnancy even if you're using protection and considering what you will do in the case you become pregnant is good.

Understanding that accessibility to contraception reduces unwanted pregnancy and 'abstinence only' education creates regions with higher sti, unwanted pregnancy, crime and poverty simply because they refuse to accept the importance of sex in human psychology is also important.
 
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