Who was the first holy Roman Emperor?

[Spiderman]

There seems to be a dispute over whether the first Holy Roman Emperor was Charlemagne or Otto I.

Anyway, there's a lot of speculation that the One World Government and New World Order will be a revived Holy Roman Empire. Germany dominated the Holy Roman Empire and Germany dominates the EU. The capitol of the EU is called the Charlemagne building and they award the Charlemagne prize for contributing to European unity. So there is also speculation that the European Union is a revived form of the Holy Roman Empire.

 

[Spiderman]

Heiliges Römisches Reich!

 

[Enoch07]

Neither.

Constantine the Great - Wikipedia

Constantine was the first roman emperor to convert from paganism to christianity. So he would in fact be the first holy roman emperor.

 

[osgart]

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There seems to be a dispute over whether the first Holy Roman Emperor was Charlemagne or Otto I.

Anyway, there's a lot of speculation that the One World Government and New World Order will be a revived Holy Roman Empire. The capitol of the EU is called the Charlemagne building and they award the Charlemagne prize for contributing to European unity. So there is also speculation that the European Union is a revived form of the Holy Roman Empire.
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I thought it was Constantine

 

[shunyadragon]

Neither.

Constantine the Great - Wikipedia

Constantine was the first roman emperor to convert from paganism to christianity. So he would in fact be the first holy roman emperor.

I agree. I was going to post it, but you beat me to it.

 

[Spiderman]

Neither.

Constantine the Great - Wikipedia

Constantine was the first roman emperor to convert from paganism to christianity. So he would in fact be the first holy roman emperor.

The Holy Roman Empire was a different Empire than the one Constantine ruled

 

[Spiderman]

I agree. I was going to post it, but you beat me to it.

That wasn't the Holy Roman Empire I'm talking about. It's true that was a Roman Empire and it was Christian, but the Holy Roman Empire was an Empire founded in 800 AD

 

[Spiderman]

I thought it was Constantine

Nope. You're talking about a totally different Empire... The Holy Roman Empire didn't exist until 800 AD

 

[Spiderman]

Neither.

Constantine the Great - Wikipedia

Constantine was the first roman emperor to convert from paganism to christianity. So he would in fact be the first holy roman emperor.

This is the Empire I'm talking about:
Holy Roman Empire - Wikipedia

 

[Spiderman]

On 25 December 800, Pope Leo III crowned the Frankish king Charlemagneas Emperor, reviving the title in Western Europe, more than three centuries after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

 

[Enoch07]

The Holy Roman Empire was a different Empire than the one Constantine ruled

Eh, Constantine, while not solely responsible, but definitely a huge driving force in setting up the Holy Roman Empire you are describing. When Constantine converted, it marked a shift in the world of pagans converting to christianity.

 

[Spiderman]

Eh, Constantine, while not solely responsible, but definitely a huge driving force in setting up the Holy Roman Empire you are describing. When Constantine converted, it marked a shift in the that world of pagans converting to christianity.

Yes, but the Holy Roman Empire didn't exist until three centuries after the fall of Constantine's Empire... Constantine was emperor of the Roman Empire not the Holy Roman Empire... They were two totally different Empires, and the Holy Roman Empire was primarily a German Empire

 

[shunyadragon]

That wasn't the Holy Roman Empire I'm talking about. It's true that was a Roman Empire and it was Christian, but the Holy Roman Empire was an Empire founded in 800 AD

Semantics. I disagree.

 

[Spiderman]

Semantics. I disagree.

Google Holy Roman Empire and with every result you get , it will not be the Empire of Constantine, I can assure you that... Constantine's empire fell more than three centuries before the Holy Roman Empire even existed... The Holy Roman Empire was primarily a German Empire

 

[gnomon]

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There seems to be a dispute over whether the first Holy Roman Emperor was Charlemagne or Otto I.

Anyway, there's a lot of speculation that the One World Government and New World Order will be a revived Holy Roman Empire. Germany dominated the Holy Roman Empire and Germany dominates the EU. The capitol of the EU is called the Charlemagne building and they award the Charlemagne prize for contributing to European unity. So there is also speculation that the European Union is a revived form of the Holy Roman Empire.
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Historically..........neither.

 

[Spiderman]

Historically..........neither.

Not true

 

[Spiderman]

Doesn't anyone here know what the Holy Roman Empire was? It wasn't the Empire of Constantine. That Empire was never called Holy Roman Empire!!! Sheesh!

 

[shunyadragon]

Google Holy Roman Empire and with every result you get , it will not be the Empire of Constantine, I can assure you that... Constantine's empire fell more than three centuries before the Holy Roman Empire even existed... The Holy Roman Empire was primarily a German Empire

Google, Foolgle, Walla Walla Bondugle. Google is ok but . . .

 

[osgart]

you have been reading bible prophecy , and watching too much jack van impe.

this man has been terribly excited about the end times for over 30 years speaking of the revived holy Roman empire, and the antichrist heading all religions and being said economic leader coming out of the EU.

what makes you think this stuff is going to happen?

 

[Spiderman]

you have been reading bible prophecy , and watching too much jack van impe.

this man has been terribly excited about the end times for over 30 years speaking of the revived holy Roman empire, and the antichrist heading all religions and being said economic leader coming out of the EU.

what makes you think this stuff is going to happen?

I doubt it will happen