Who Would This Person Be Within Hinduism

[paarsurrey]

Namaste,

I see your still in search for some oneness, a noble seeking indeed, but i think you are not really paying attention to Hindu sentiments or Hindu views, now this is entirely your choice, but unfortunately your terms (Brahman ect) are core Hindu Principals but your means (NDE) are not conforming to Hindu Practices, in other words the Method a Hindu advocates for achieving Brahman is not compatible with your personal experience of NDE and being with Brahman in heaven, now since you seem to be convinced of your experiences as authentic we (Hindus in this context) cannot claim otherwise as the NDE is a non reproducible method (in contrast to Adhyatma Vidya which claims reproduce-ability by everyone not after death but as Jivanmukti while alive) therefore we cannot dismiss your claim, but the problem is that your claimed method encroaches on our claimed method, now one of these might just be a method that does not work. To a Hindu the NDE that claims to have gone to heaven and seen "Brahman" are just not true claims. And i think this is the core of the disagreement.

It is a very equitable write-up. Hinduism soft sentiments notwithstanding Wizanda has his own individual right to believe whatever is his experience whether truthful to others or not. Hinduism people could disagree with him on their right, but must not get offended as he seems to have no intention of offending anybody.
I also disagree with him most and also disagree with me most. It is fair on both sides.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Now this is (as said so rightly by Jaya) a disrespectful claim, here you are dismissing the entire Hindu tradition (Hinduisms claims rest on the Authorities of our Rishi and Gurus). You are Dismissing our Rishis but are quite happy to appropriate their claim of Brahman. Why so?
The claim of NDE being the only means is a exclusivity claim which is contradictory to your attempts at Oneness, I am surprised why you don't see your entire post as being a exclusive claim of Oneness which is opposite to Hindu claim of Advaita of Brahman, but i don't expect you to realize this as it seems you are drunk on Oneness.

Wizanda does not claim to be from Hinduism. Does he?
So he could disagree with the posters here of Hinduism and also their rishis or gurus with arguments. Mere his being different in noway jeopardizes anybody else's respect or honor. The Hinduism differ among themselves so much in spite of all denominations having perhaps their different rishis or gurus, or the same rishis and gurus yet different understanding of them or different interpretations of their thoughts. If a Hinduism does the same things, why the feeling don't get injured? Aren't the rishis and gurus human beings suceptible to err like everybody else. Please
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

How can one meditate using or by having a NDE? Don't you have to have a NDE to realize oneness? Are you going to teach someone to have a NDE?
If you which to go to Heaven there are people in this world who can fulfill that desire, ISIS comes to mind, why the need for any meditation of Oneness ? if you are not sure about our rishis using Meditation to see Brahman then why would you suggest meditation as a method to experience Oneness?
Dhanyavad

I guess Wizanda means that he meditated and in its consequence he got the NDE experience. I may be wrong. Needs confirmation from Wizanda. Wizanda to clarify, please.
If he already expressed something I missed, Hinduism people are requested to please quote from him. Peace
Please
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

So when we do good for each other, it is the Oneness we receive that makes us feel good.

Wonderful! wizanda! You are very good at expressing the thoughts.
Regards

 

[wizanda]

I guess Wizanda means that he meditated and in its consequence he got the NDE experience.

A NDE means a Near Death Experience; though i was meditating just before i left my body, they're not the same thing, as just explaining in my last post.

Wizanda does not claim to be from Hinduism. Does he?

Not claimed to have advanced knowledge of Hinduism; yet do claim to fulfill prophecy, and have a deep knowledge of spiritual matters.

Plus from an early age knew one was an avatar, which is a Hindu terminology, and my name can be seen to be from Sanskrit Zanda.

Yet some people automatically go on a defensive, as they feel I'm taking from them, when I'm only adding more.

 

[paarsurrey]

Thank you, please
But your confirmation is not much straightforward. Well, it is you.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

@wizanda

There is a suggestion here for everybody who participated in this thread, open for others also.
In another thread titled "why are we here?" we should write our posts.it is not specific to any religion and was,not started by me , and is relevant to every human being. I have written some posts there. I request that everybody here should write there matching my posts in the same style from the Hinduism perspective.To start with the Hinduism friends may quote strictly from Rigveda the gist of their posts as to the claims and the arguments as I had done.
Do your like it? Please
Peace
Regards

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

"wizanda, post: 4803409, member: 1032"

Namaste,

Wouldn't dismiss any righteous teachers, just improving on what they've understood, as within their knowledge are lots of things that are right; there is just always more to learn.

Good to see you were not intending your comment in a rude sense, but hope you understand why it seemed that way to me and some others.

What exactly did you mean by this statement in bold?

Maybe the Rishis weren't aware of it, as you'd have to have had a NDE...You can't see Oneness as a place, until you leave the physical entirely.

As explaining above, you can bypass dimensions, by either recognizing each for an illusion of Maya or by going directly to Brahman.

You have not really answered my queries, does one require NDE to realize Oneness? from your reply in Bold can I assume that a NDE is "Going Directly to Brahman"?

Dhanyavad

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

It is a very equitable write-up. Hinduism soft sentiments notwithstanding Wizanda has his own individual right to believe whatever is his experience whether truthful to others or not. Hinduism people could disagree with him on their right, but must not get offended as he seems to have no intention of offending anybody.
I also disagree with him most and also disagree with me most. It is fair on both sides.
Regards

I did not claim that he has offended anyone.

I never stopped him from having his opinion and explaining his views.

 

[paarsurrey]

I did not claim that he has offended anyone.
I never stopped him from having his opinion and explaining his views.

Thanks for clarifying.
Regards

 

[wizanda]

Namaste Satyamavejayanti-Ji,

from your reply in Bold can I assume that a NDE is "Going Directly to Brahman"?

Nope, meant it in context.... So we can meditate on Brahman directly, as the CPU of all reality, and it is possible we won't seen any levels between us.

What exactly did you mean by this statement in bold?

Same as answered in the last post...

Now for someone meditating, it is possible by recognizing the dimensions are only a construct of the manifest reality, to as such bypass them, and you will feel that everything is Brahman, as you can go directly to the source, without seeing the levels of dimension.

Thus for a persons mind, there is no place, its everywhere, as they've removed all ideas of dimensions to begin with.

Ask if there is anything that confuses you within that, and will explain....

hope you understand why it seemed that way to me and some others.

Yes, and apologize again for any misunderstandings; it wasn't saying about the Rishis, it was just the method of observation.