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Who's more racist... the religious or the non-religious?

sonofskeptish

It is what it is
A recent thread entitled "Are Athiests Racist?" got me thinking...

1. If you divided people into 2 groups, the religious and the non-religious, which group would have more racists in it?

And question 2...

2. If being a particular race caused a group to be more likely to be religious or non-religious, which of these groups would be more racist against the other?

Whatever your thoughts, I'd like to hear why you think this to be the case.

(for the record... I do NOT think race (color) is a factor in determining if you are more likely to be religious or non-religious... 2. is a hypothetical question).
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Your momma :D

Just kidding, but I don't see anyway to answer this. It is akin to asking which type of ants (Army or Carpenter) love their queen more?
 

sonofskeptish

It is what it is
Some might answer question 1 by saying the religious group would have more racists because religion breeds intolerance.

Others might answer question 2 by saying if race caused a group to be more likely to be religious, athiests would be less tolerant of that race.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
A recent thread entitled "Are Athiests Racist?" got me thinking...

1. If you divided people into 2 groups, the religious and the non-religious, which group would have more racists in it?

And question 2...

2. If being a particular race caused a group to be more likely to be religious or non-religious, which of these groups would be more racist against the other?

Whatever your thoughts, I'd like to hear why you think this to be the case.

(for the record... I do NOT think race (color) is a factor in determining if you are more likely to be religious or non-religious... 2. is a hypothetical question).

Group 3. Both questions.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Some might answer question 1 by saying the religious group would have more racists because religion breeds intolerance.

Others might answer question 2 by saying if race caused a group to be more likely to be religious, athiests would be less tolerant of that race.
See you got it all figured out!
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Don´t think any of the groups are inheritly more or less racist then the other.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
A recent thread entitled "Are Athiests Racist?" got me thinking...

1. If you divided people into 2 groups, the religious and the non-religious, which group would have more racists in it?

And question 2...

2. If being a particular race caused a group to be more likely to be religious or non-religious, which of these groups would be more racist against the other?

Whatever your thoughts, I'd like to hear why you think this to be the case.

(for the record... I do NOT think race (color) is a factor in determining if you are more likely to be religious or non-religious... 2. is a hypothetical question).

I don't think that question can be answered. People being racist doesn't seem to have anything to do with faith or non-faith.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
This question cannot be answered without studies being done on the various religions and their relationship to ethnicity.
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
A recent thread entitled "Are Athiests Racist?" got me thinking...

1. If you divided people into 2 groups, the religious and the non-religious, which group would have more racists in it?

And question 2...

2. If being a particular race caused a group to be more likely to be religious or non-religious, which of these groups would be more racist against the other?

Whatever your thoughts, I'd like to hear why you think this to be the case.

(for the record... I do NOT think race (color) is a factor in determining if you are more likely to be religious or non-religious... 2. is a hypothetical question).

I think these are far too complicated too just spit out an answer based on opinion. I'd like to see various statisitcal analysis if any where available.

Number one may be too broad in it's use of 'religion'. I'd always hesitate to lump the theistic and non-theistic religions together without some kind of evidence to suggest it was apropriate for the topic. Still, religion can create racism and other prejudices. In the past I'd say question one would easily be answered. But off the top of my head most of the world religions don't seem to have race as an issue in their doctrine. Christianity has been used to push racism in the past, such as the african slave trade being endorsed by a pope or the genocide of the native americans and numerous other examples, and there are a few references that have been used to support said racism, but by in large I'd say that was more of a cultural thing, and religion was merely used as a tool to justify something that powerful men were already going to do. Still, christianity as a whole seems to be moving on from this. Now beating down gay rights is the in thing with them.

Is race an issue in islam? I don't think it is but I could be wrong. Bhuddsim certianly doesn't promote a race issue. Anyone can be hindi, although in the past the caste system has been used to keep people down. Is caste a type of race? I think so, but at any rate the caste system isn't as meaningful as it used to be. I imagine it will more or less dissapear at some point in my life time.

So, currently, I don't think there would be a huge difference between athiests and religious folk concerning racists, but maybe a slightly higher number amoung the religious (although there is a whole heap of other issues numerious religions bring to the table, but that's not the focus of this thread). Again, it's just an opinion as I have no avaible data on the subject. Does anyone have any studies on anything to do with racism and religions?

As for number 2, I have no idea, I'd have to think on it.
 
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Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
That depends. Are you an oppressive hwhite man?

Kidding, of course lol.

Speaking from personal experience, almost all of the racists I've met were religious people. Very few are atheists.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
That depends. Are you an oppressive hwhite man?

Kidding, of course lol.

Speaking from personal experience, almost all of the racists I've met were religious people. Very few are atheists.

depends on where you live really. most racists i have met are theists too. but i live in rural texas, so most of the people i meet are theists, so of course most of the racists here are going to be theists.
 

Smoke

Done here.
A recent thread entitled "Are Athiests Racist?" got me thinking...

1. If you divided people into 2 groups, the religious and the non-religious, which group would have more racists in it?

And question 2...

2. If being a particular race caused a group to be more likely to be religious or non-religious, which of these groups would be more racist against the other?

Whatever your thoughts, I'd like to hear why you think this to be the case.

(for the record... I do NOT think race (color) is a factor in determining if you are more likely to be religious or non-religious... 2. is a hypothetical question).
I think the only possible use of a thread like this is to demonstrate that there are such things as offensive questions.

I mean, seriously. Who's more likely to a deadbeat dad, a Methodist or a Presbyterian? Who's more likely to be a liar, an Orthodox Jew or an Orthodox Christian? What the hell?
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
I think the only possible use of a thread like this is to demonstrate that there are such things as offensive questions.

I mean, seriously. Who's more likely to a deadbeat dad, a Methodist or a Presbyterian? Who's more likely to be a liar, an Orthodox Jew or an Orthodox Christian? What the hell?


1.) a Presbyterian

2.) trick question, both

:p only kidding.......maybe;)
 

Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
depends on where you live really. most racists i have met are theists too. but i live in rural texas, so most of the people i meet are theists, so of course most of the racists here are going to be theists.

Of course. That's why I made sure to note that it was only my personal experience. I don't have the data to suggest one group is more racist than the other nor how to even know how to quantify racism.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Of course. That's why I made sure to note that it was only my personal experience. I don't have the data to suggest one group is more racist than the other nor how to even know how to quantify racism.

well, there are more theists in the world than atheists, so i would venture a guess and say that most racists are theists. percentage wise, id guess the same thing, but who knows
 

Vile Atheist

Loud and Obnoxious
well, there are more theists in the world than atheists, so i would venture a guess and say that most racists are theists. percentage wise, id guess the same thing, but who knows

If I had to make a guess, I'd say the percentage is lower for atheists, simply because of the tendency of atheists to be more left-wing and support social justice. Face it, many of those who call themselves right wing in the West are hardly the most tolerant of people (obviously not to say all right-wingers are racist). Theists tend to be more right wing.

Of course, as I said, this is only speculation. I don't have any data to support this. And I am fully aware of my bias.
 
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