Desert Snake
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Just because something is a ''reasonable explanation'', doesn't make it the correct conclusion.
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Why a male supreme God?
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Deadtroopers
Member
Which is it? Is God a male or is it just symbolism?[/QUOTE]
The Abrahamic God is gendered. The Abrahamic religions are all masculinist, misogynist and patriarchal. They are grounded in history and are always referring back to the past. Originally Yahweh was part of a pantheon, the elohim; and not even the senior god. That was El, cast as his father. He had a wife Asherah. That's how God in Genesis comes to be speaking in the plural: "'let us create man in our image', male and female he created them" etc. One of the most noticeable things about the Tanakh is that as the Hebrew religion evolved the sories were rewritten but they rarely ever actually threw anything out. They wrote stories that modified things instead. So in the process of making Yahweh senior then sole God the Hebrews managed to lose the female side of divinity. Unless they ditch their scriptures and start allover again there is nothing to be done about this. It sounds like nonsense now because it has become nonsense. Ptolmaic cosmology, which had the sun going around the Earth, was patched with increasingly complicated maths until it was finally acknowledged as unworkable in the seventeenth century.
The Abrahamic religions are at a similar impasse; rendered bonkers by reality.
The Abrahamic God is gendered. The Abrahamic religions are all masculinist, misogynist and patriarchal. They are grounded in history and are always referring back to the past. Originally Yahweh was part of a pantheon, the elohim; and not even the senior god. That was El, cast as his father. He had a wife Asherah. That's how God in Genesis comes to be speaking in the plural: "'let us create man in our image', male and female he created them" etc. One of the most noticeable things about the Tanakh is that as the Hebrew religion evolved the sories were rewritten but they rarely ever actually threw anything out. They wrote stories that modified things instead. So in the process of making Yahweh senior then sole God the Hebrews managed to lose the female side of divinity. Unless they ditch their scriptures and start allover again there is nothing to be done about this. It sounds like nonsense now because it has become nonsense. Ptolmaic cosmology, which had the sun going around the Earth, was patched with increasingly complicated maths until it was finally acknowledged as unworkable in the seventeenth century.
The Abrahamic religions are at a similar impasse; rendered bonkers by reality.
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
Where did this family live ?.
Deadtroopers
Member
So Francis is dead and they made you Pope? The Nicene Creed is the official faith statement of all the major churches; Protestant, Orthodox; and Catholic. The Creed is the Club Rules: if you don't abide by the rules; your not a member of the club. That's just how it is; I don't make the rules
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outhouse
Atheistically
In mythology.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yes I agree with that, its all mythology, never happened, but there is deep meaning in mythology for those who can see, and that is how I also look at scripture, I see past the mere words.
Deadtroopers
Member
In the Temple. Watch 'The Bible's Buried Secrets' put out by BBC2, presented by Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou. You can get the three part series off YouTube.
Deadtroopers
Member
That's all you had to say. You didn't have to say:
Read your own post. Genesis clearly says Yahweh has a body. Elsewhere Yahweh is refered to as the son of El. The Christian God being male and a father goes back to Jesus; not Constantine.
I honestly could not find the correlation between the two statements. I don't like guessing games. (like in post #97) That is like someone handing me scripture and saying "here, you should know the truth." and I tell them, "No. Explain what you mean.. that verse can mean a tone of things. What is your point?"
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Anyway, the only way I can see God as an actual "he" is because many Christians believe Christ is God; and, Christ is male.
God has no gender. He is a spirit. We refer to Him as He for convenience (and He is the role of authority as well--before the women's rights movement
You might refer to god as he for convenience, but that is your god, not the god the OP is referring to or the Abrahamic god. Those religions are based on writings that haven't been updated since the Iron Age, when the female component was chopped out. The major churches of Christianity are bound by the Nicene Creed, from the fourth century, which says God is a bloke. Since the Reformation and Christianity splintering into forty thousand odd (some very odd) sects; it has become impossible for them to update the rules; that can only be done by an Ecumenical Council: an assembly of all the leaders of the whole Church.
Deadtroopers
Member
The vast majority of Christian churches believe Jesus is god and fully a man. QED God has a penis.
Nice to see someone quote the Homilies/Recognitions by the way; I wish everyone was familiar with all the fascinating early Christian writings and the Jewish stuff like Jubilees.
outhouse
Atheistically
Early Israelites who were polytheistic, worshipped these deity concepts as a family. Not as anything you would even recognize as a deity or worship.
These people were so primitive, they literally thought these beings controlled positive and negative thoughts in their heads. They viewed them as man and wife. They viewed a father deity who created all other deities. They lived the mythology, not just went to church on Sunday.
Their lives were consumed by belief.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
When my Mormon bishop learned I was so interested in early Christianity, he suggested I read it. Absolutely fascinating stuff! Should be required reading for all Christians. It doesn't matter that it's not "scripture." It contains some valuable insights into what 1st and 2nd century Christians really believed.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Want to elaborate on that statement?
- Most mammals have only one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. Males have one Y chromosome and one X chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes. In mammals, the Y chromosome contains a gene, SRY, which triggers embryonic development as a male.
Where does the Y come from if God is a female?
Who said God has a literal female body?
outhouse
Atheistically
C, you undertsand. Cheers!
Who did?