And perhaps they’re number wasn’t in the billions.
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Why are Abrahamic religions so violent? It's the blood.
- Thread starter Twilight Hue
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And perhaps they’re number wasn’t in the billions.
Truth in love
Well-Known Member
Blood is a big deal, however peace is also. I think most of the violence comes from a failure to keep some of the vital teachings in perspective.
True, probably more in the range of 100,000 across Europe. And land wasn't a possession then, it didn't become so until the advent of farming. So one less thing to fight over
You cave crawler,
There’s an archaeological dig where there was a cave and outside it’s entrance there were hundreds of sea shells where the inhabitants had eaten and thrown the shells away,in these times how idyllic that would be,unfortunately I don’t remember the dig.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
First, just because something is in the Bible doesn't make it good. Abraham wasn't supposed to impregnate his servant for example, that was his wife's idea, not God's.
And even when God does demand death it's because of the unfortunate situation man has put himself into by acting against God's original orders.
Not done any cave crawling since before the pandemic.
And a cave you say? Possible Villars but not heard of a shell fish find there
Not often they hung around in caves unless the local hunting (or fishing) warranted it.
That’s a shame cos it sounds like fun,I’m guessing it was easy food back then,even now shellfish is easy prey but I submit to your knowledge on these things.
It was fun, that pandemic has a lot to answer for, it's ruined French social life which may take years to restore properly
If they found an oyster or mussel bed, which it sound like they did. They would have stayed until it failed to produce enough food.
Eaten on the spot,idllic apart from there being no wine to wash it down or onion vinegar for the oysters and they didn’t have pretty French summer dresses back then,our ancestors had many hardships but less complicated imo.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Humans are capable of violence, those religions derive from an epoch of extreme violence, and were created by humans and cultures that by modern secular democratic standards are intrinsically violent.
*sighs* Where do I start with this one?
From the bolded: These things you mention, and things much, much worse occurred in cultures that predate the advent of the Abrahamic religions.
From the blue: I can tell one thing for certain: this person’s knowledge of the “Abrahamic religions” is limited to Christianity and, perhaps, Islam.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
No true Scotsman fallacy, dear oh dear...
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Could you define more comfortable?
It’s harder when you have lol.
The Old Testament reflect the values of people who understood adversity as divine punishment, and gods as bloodthirsty and needing continual appeasement with gifts of death. Go kill another goat and see if the drought lifts. Then kill a herd of them before going to war to earn the favor of the gods. Fortunately, much of the world has progressed beyond that, even in Christianity, but the mindset persists. God so loved us that he offered his son as a blood sacrifice for us, and now we can be washed in the blood of the lamb. Think of the implications of calling that love.
Don’t ye forget the Scots. They be some berzerker lads and lasses, eh @Revoltingest?
That is one strange misunderstanding of the Jewish sacrificial system.
No, I thoroughly disagree. I will not speak for other Abrahamic faith, but in Judaism animal sacrifice is neither violent nor ultimately central. There are also non-animal sacrifices in Judaism. Judaism was the first religion to reject chattel slavery. And Jews don’t seek violence.
Have you ever seen the old Goodies episode where the Salvation Army reveals themselves to be an actual military force?
Your post made me think of that and chuckle.