Why are Hindu's rich and educated in USA

[Wannabe Yogi]

The New York Times says.

Hindus are the best-educated and among the richest religious groups, the survey found.

Americans Change Faiths at Rising Rate, Report Finds - New York Times

Your ideas

 

[Andal]

Short answer... good karma?

In all seriousness though there are a number of factors that go into this. From the immigrant side, a large number of immigrants from South Asia who land in the U.S. end up here because they have the means to do so. This is unlike the predominently Catholic Mexicans, Christian Slavs, and Buddhist refugees who have entered the U.S. over the last 4 decades.

Of course this isn't completely true either. If you live in an area with a huge Indian population as I do, there are variances in the socio-economic status of Hindus and Indians as a whole. This article plays into the stereotype of Indians as the "model minority," which is not completely accurate.

With that being said, there are certain expectations and mindsets that are indigenous to Hinduism that are imparted to the South Asian youth. Dharma, Karma, Arta, and Moksha come to mind as well as the importance of education.

On the flip side there is also the rise of conversion to Hinduism among non- Indians. From my experience it appears that the vast majority of converts tend to by educated, if not highly educated, which increases earning potentials significantly.

And I'll stop now as I feel as though I'm rambling

Aum Hari Aum!

 

[Andal]

ps: very interesting article. thanks for posting this!

 

[Riverwolf]

Uh... huh.

I'm lower middle-class, and literally only have about 300 dollars in my bank. I live with my girlfriend, who lives with her parents, and besides that, I live with my mom.

So... yeah. I'm the oddball out, I guess. (Then again, I've only been Hindu for a few years...)

 

[Andal]

Uh... huh.

I'm lower middle-class, and literally only have about 300 dollars in my bank. I live with my girlfriend, who lives with her parents, and besides that, I live with my mom.

So... yeah. I'm the oddball out, I guess. (Then again, I've only been Hindu for a few years...)

Give it some time Riverwolf... You're bank account will soon reflect your Hinduness

Seriously though, thank you for bringing this up. I think the middle class as a whole get's over looked. There's a great book called, "Desi Land" which looks at the socialization of Indian teens in the 90's and the myth of rich and Indianness crashes very quickly.

I think too this article is very shallow in it's analysis of Hindus because Indians as whole (regardless of religion) statistically speaking are the most educated and richest group in the U.S. Their education and projected earnings far surpass that of Caucasians in the States.

I think the whole thing is a lot more complicated than it first appears to be.

 

[Madhuri]

Yes but RW you're so smart! Proof right there.

 

[Vinayaka]

If you look at immigration laws, for awhile the only jobs in which the US could prove there was a shortage of were highly academic ones. So the people who got to immigrate were the high-skilled professionals. This has changed over time a bit.

One of the unmentioned consequences of this is brain drain from thirld world countries.

Another factor is the culture of hard work in Asian countries, particularly for students. I bet at the Florida spring break drunken orgies, you don't see many Asian students. They probably go visit family, and hit the books. From day one in Kindergarten, the basic expectation is to get at least one post-graduate degree. Not so in the average American family. There are some real downsides to this as well, particularly for the person inclined to hands-on stuff like auto mechanics.

 

[magalaan]

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[Wannabe Yogi]

From day one in Kindergarten, the basic expectation is to get at least one post-graduate degree.

Standards for the Indian kids at my temple is very High. Even going to a state college is kind of looked down on by some. Most of the white folks are also from the professional class so they expect a lot also. I do not know of one kid in my temple who did not go to college. I find my middle school son is very hard on himself. If he gets a B on a test he gets extremely upset with himself. I really don't have to push him at all in school. I do believe that with in Hinduism there is a strong belief in education.

here are some real downsides to this as well, particularly for the person inclined to hands-on stuff like auto mechanics.

Its funny that you mention this. It seems many can't even use a hammer.

 

[Vinayaka]

Its funny that you mention this. It seems many can't even use a hammer.

Certainly true in my community here. Any hands-on activity (like shoveling a bit of snow, or picking a small bit of garbage up) seems forbidden some days.

I exaggerate but there is some truth.

 

[magalaan]

Certainly true in my community here. Any hands-on activity (like shoveling a bit of snow, or picking a small bit of garbage up) seems forbidden some days.

I exaggerate but there is some truth.

Than education is too one-sided. As the Ramayana tells working hard with nature is vital to create a balanced personality. To much stress on mental activity creates dull minds, that over-rationalize and live in thought worlds that follow man made rules. One of the reasons society becomes harder is that people become more and more detached from nature and direct physical experience. Experience in nature is far more subtle than the most complicated man made theories. Doing seemingly long, dull jobs sharpens the mind because it invites the mind to look deeper and discover. Efficiency is a killer. It kills the subtle and only leaves the rational. A great logical mind can still be a tree without branches.

 

[Vinayaka]

Than education is too one-sided. As the Ramayana tells working hard with nature is vital to create a balanced personality. To much stress on mental activity creates dull minds, that over-rationalize and live in thought worlds that follow man made rules. One of the reasons society becomes harder is that people become more and more detached from nature and direct physical experience. Experience in nature is far more subtle than the most complicated man made theories. Doing seemingly long, dull jobs sharpens the mind because it invites the mind to look deeper and discover. Efficiency is a killer. It kills the subtle and only leaves the rational. A great logical mind can still be a tree without branches.

No argument here.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

It's called "parents whip you if you don't do well in school."

Magic! Discipline works wonders.

 

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[Aupmanyav]

Strong support from people of the same region/language in India, even if lacking in education. Punjabi/Sikhs gravitating towards owning gas pumps/driving taxis, and Gujaratis gravitating towards hotels/motels. Of course, that is over-simplification but not wholly untrue, IMHO. You can find the same among Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and nearly every community from the sub-continent.

 

[Valjean]

Don't American Hindus also have fewer children than their Indian counterparts?

 

[Aupmanyav]

No. Indian average is now below 2 children for each couple. Soon, it is going to affect demography adversely. We need to have more children now. Have had too much of family planning.

Growth rate

1.25% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India

 

[Terese]

No. Indian average is now below 2 children for each couple. Soon, it is going to affect demography adversely. We need to have more children now. Have had too much of family planning.

Growth rate

1.25% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India

Why in such a hurry? India's population is 1 billion. I'd say slow down.

 

[Valjean]

How can any diminution in the human population possibly be a bad thing?

 

[Aupmanyav]

We are now nearly 1290 million. Diminution, God forbid.
See what has happened to Japan (first image) - more aged and retired people. India graph (at the moment) - more young people. The bulge (i.e., population of aged people) is going to travel upward in India also. Many Western countries also are facing this kind of problem. That restricts progress. Young people, new births are essential for progress of any society.