Why are so many books left out of the bible today not the lost books

[Riders]

I'm not talking about the lost books that were not canonized. I am talking about the original King James Bible that was canonized that had quite a bit of Apocrypha and books that the now bible does not have available. I realize you can by the Apocrypha but there are books in the original KJ from the 1500s that you can not get like The Bell and the Dragon...............so why were all these books left out.

There is also quite few passages in other books left out a lot of stuff left out that has been canonized?

Why is the bible of today so very very different then that of the 1500s?

 

[shunyadragon]

Interesting, I await those that know about these books.

 

[Riders]

Interesting, I await those that know about these books.

Watch the video.

 

[Misunderstood]

Hello Rider,

The books mentioned are the Apocrypha, and are not considered holy texts, but history. They were positioned after the Holy texts of the OT as the Apocrypha, and before the texts of the NT.

They were only included and intended as history, not as Holy texts. The reason they are not considered Holy texts, is that none were written in Hebrew, (remember, the OT Bible was written by the Jewish people and they are the ones that decided what was their Holy Texts). None of the writers of these books claimed to be inspired by God, and as mentioned before they were never sanctioned by the Jewish Church.

They were removed from the current Bible because it is called the Holy Bible, but the Apocrypha was not considered Holy texts just history. But, if you want to read them they are widely available, and can be read for some historical events. Just search for the Apocrypha in a search and you should be able to easily find them.

 

[Riders]

Hello Rider,

The books mentioned are the Apocrypha, and are not considered holy texts, but history. They were positioned after the Holy texts of the OT as the Apocrypha, and before the texts of the NT.

They were only included and intended as history, not as Holy texts. The reason they are not considered Holy texts, is that none were written in Hebrew, (remember, the OT Bible was written by the Jewish people and they are the ones that decided what was their Holy Texts). None of the writers of these books claimed to be inspired by God, and as mentioned before they were never sanctioned by the Jewish Church.

They were removed from the current Bible because it is called the Holy Bible, but the Apocrypha was not considered Holy texts just history. But, if you want to read them they are widely available, and can be read for some historical events. Just search for the Apocrypha in a search and you should be able to easily find them.

Its my understanding that these apocrypha books are not listed in the apocrypha I use to have the Apocrypha and I don't remember a book called the bell and the dragon nope. Its not available but I will search the internet and he also said there were texts not in the bible, I have also seen another take on the 1600s KJ where it said there was a lot of text left out theres a lot.

 

[Riders]

Heres what the iki says about it.

his chapter, along with chapter 13, is considered deuterocanonical: it was rejected by Rabbinic Judaism, and while it is viewed as canonical by both Catholic and Orthodox Christians, it is considered apocryphal by Protestants and typically not found in modern Protestant Bibles.

So Protestants reject it.

 

[Misunderstood]

Its my understanding that these apocrypha books are not listed in the apocrypha I use to have the Apocrypha and I don't remember a book called the bell and the dragon nope. Its not available but I will search the internet and he also said there were texts not in the bible, I have also seen another take on the 1600s KJ where it said there was a lot of text left out theres a lot.

List of books of the King James Version - Wikipedia

Here is a list of the books of the bible, as you mention you may have a bible containing the Apocrypha, but not all bibles will use the same books of the Apocrypha according to the religion that made the bible. I will let you look at this while I respond on texts that were left out.

 

[Misunderstood]

As I remember, I would need to verify some of what I am writing to make sure I am correct, as it has been a long time since I have studied this. So you may find fault with some of this.

I think there is a story in Mark? that was completely left out that was in the original KJV, and of course there were other verses left out as well. If I remember correctly most of the time it was because not all found texts contained the verse or verses in the original KJV, since it was not in all, they would use the texts that were in agreement and delete the parts that were not able to be confirmed. Also sometimes a verse seemed to repeat without adding anything and they were removed.

 

[Misunderstood]

Ah, you replied while I was responding, I will reply to this as well.

You are basically right, the EditCatholics and Orthodox did canonize parts of the Apocrypha, I don't think they canonized all of the Apocrypha but most of it, making it part of the Holy Bible. The Protestants and Judaism do not reject it they just consider it the Apocrypha.

Anyway, I am not trying to argue one way or the other. You just asked why they were left out, and I just am trying to explain. I feel you can find God in any bible you read.

 

[Jumi]

I've posted this summary to other threads, but it tells you about the development of their canon:

The Development of the Canon of the New Testament - Cross Reference Table: Writings and Authorities

 

[shunyadragon]

Watch the video.

The video did not conclude why, but some of the other posters did fill in the reasons and how the apocrypha fit in the history of the KJB.

Puzzle; What is the text of the Bell and dragon, and where is it documented?

 

[sojourner]

I'm not talking about the lost books that were not canonized. I am talking about the original King James Bible that was canonized that had quite a bit of Apocrypha and books that the now bible does not have available. I realize you can by the Apocrypha but there are books in the original KJ from the 1500s that you can not get like The Bell and the Dragon...............so why were all these books left out.

There is also quite few passages in other books left out a lot of stuff left out that has been canonized?

Why is the bible of today so very very different then that of the 1500s?

None of the 15 are included in the Hebrew canon (which was closed after the Christian canon). All are, however, found in the LXX (with the exception of 2 Esdras). The old Latin translations, made from the LXX, also include the apocryphal books, as well ad 2 Esdras.

The Protestant canon follows the Jewish canon. Various Eastern canons include the apocryphal books, or some of them. These books seem to have always been in dispute by one group or another.

The Bible today is different because most bibles today are from the Protestant canon, which, as I mentioned, excludes these books, based on their exclusion by the Jewish canon (which, incidentally, also has the books in somewhat different order than the Protestant canon.