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Why Are So Many Cops Dumb?

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Are you asking this for the purpose of defending dumb & corrupt cops?
No. Why don't you just answer my question? If your answer is no, for some reason, kindly provide what you consider to be an example of a "good" police officer.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why don't you just answer my question?
It seemed a rhetorical question.
You already know that I'm too old (70).
So knowing at least one answer to your question already,
it struck me as a comment...not a real question. So I asked.

Because....
1) Boring work with no outlet for creativity.
2) They don't build anything.
3) I loathe government employment.
4) I'm retired & too old to start a new career.

If your answer is no, for some reason, kindly provide what you consider to be an example of a "good" police officer.
I even started a thread about good cops.
It didn't get much attention.
A good cop would....
- Strive to be a respected professional.
- Know the law & the Constitution.
- Intend to serve the public & justice.
- Be emotionally mature, & maintain equanimity during vexing situations.
- Be honest, kind, trustworthy, dedicated, educated, & intelligent.
- Not be racist, sexist, ageist, bigoted, cruel, thieving, etc, etc.
- Not view civilians as frightening, or as the enemy.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It seemed a rhetorical question.
You already know that I'm too old (70).
So knowing at least one answer to your question already,
it struck me as a comment...not a real question. So I asked.

Because....
1) Boring work with no outlet for creativity.
2) They don't build anything.
3) I loathe government employment.
4) I'm retired & too old to start a new career.


I even started a thread about good cops.
It didn't get much attention.
A good cop would....
- Strive to be a respected professional.
- Know the law & the Constitution.
- Intend to serve the public & justice.
- Be emotionally mature, & maintain equanimity during vexing situations.
- Be honest, kind, trustworthy, dedicated, educated, & intelligent.
- Not be racist, sexist, ageist, bigoted, cruel, thieving, etc, etc.
- Not view civilians as frightening, or as the enemy.
You were asked to provide an example, not list the qualities.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
I recall the IQ issue from a while ago, but recently ran across this article....
Excerpted....

Jordan sued for discrimination but to no avail. Here's what a federal court ruled:

Too smart for police work, "Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test."



@Wu Wei might find it fascinating that even a lowly engineer
would be rejected as too smart to be a cop. An interesting
aspect of the average 104 IQ claim is that this means that
nearly half of cops are below average (100 IQ).
So we're giving a couple hundred thousand below average
intelligence people a gun & a license to kill to civilians.
And this after training that's less than what's required
to be a mechanic, real estate agent, or cosmetologist.
Ref....
Have you ever seen lawyer rebuild an engine? I've seen mechanics wiz through the process, some of whom have difficulty reading. The point is experience and repetition (training) creates a very skilled person. I'm sure the average police officer could stand well enough with a lawyer, also, so the IQ thing may be a bit misleading. When someone knows their job and function of a position, they often enough become very capable according to those specifics.

Mechanical even to the point of surgical in some cases.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You were asked to provide an example, not list the qualities.
Joe Crystal
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Have you ever seen lawyer rebuild an engine?
No.
I've seen mechanics wiz through the process, some of whom have difficulty reading. The point is experience and repetition (training) creates a very skilled person. I'm sure the average police officer could stand well enough with a lawyer....
Regarding the law, cops are notoriously ignorant of it.
They receive very little training in it. And few ever
pursue knowledge of it on their own.
Check the youtube channel (We The People) of the
ex-cop in my last video.
....also, so the IQ thing may be a bit misleading. When someone knows their job and function of a position, they often enough become very capable according to those specifics.
Many people believe they know their job.
All they really know is how to do what they've
long been doing....be it right or wrong.

I don't dwell on "IQ". Instead, intelligence
is what matters. IQ would be just one factor.
Others are being thoughtful, presence of mind,
education, not letting emotion override one's
intelligence.
 

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
I was checking out public sector fields federally here in Canada for insurance reasons.
Only options for uneducated people were military, navy, cops or some special options for native collaborators with the former.

I reckon for a lot of people who don't have other prospects being a cop is just a safe way where they can get employment with some kind of valor without the discipline of the forces.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I was checking out public sector fields federally here in Canada for insurance reasons.
Only options for uneducated people were military, navy, cops or some special options for native collaborators with the former.

I reckon for a lot of people who don't have other prospects being a cop is just a safe way where they can get employment with some kind of valor without the discipline of the forces.
You'd think that people given a gun & a license
to kill would have to meet a higher standard than
hair dressers. Apparently not.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Canuckistan has stupid violent cops too.
Beat the crap out of an innocent frightened girl.
Oops! Wrong girl.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Woman returns from a cruise.
Cops arrest her because they don't bother to check her name.
It's similar to the one they want to arrest, but not the same.
This gal was older. And her picture was different too.
Heaven forbid that cops should check names & look at pictures to
be sure they're going to abuse the correct person. They don't care.

She sits in jail for several days, including Xmas.
Body cavity searches....freezing temperature....blaring rock music.
Oopsie!
Wrong person.
Still didn't let her go right away.
Why bother, eh. She's just an arrested civilian.

Taxpayers will pay this bill.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
More info on the above case.....
The woman arrested differs from the one in the warrant.....
- Has a different middle name.
- Has a different last name.
- Is 5" taller.
- Is 23 years older.
- Has a difference driver license#.
- Has a different hair color.
- Has a different eye color.
- Has a different SS#.
- And has no minor children to endanger.

It is perfectly legal under the law to make
an arrest without any due diligence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This incredibly stupid cop nearly kills an innocent
woman & her dog while shooting wildly at the dog.
It's at her own home when there's no crime.
Then he arrests her merely for being in her own
home. Cops terrorize the family. They mute
their body cam while getting their story straight.
The cops investigated themselves, & found no
wrongdoing. Corruption on top of stupidity.
This is going to be expensive.
 
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gotti

*Banned*
Because, to be an obedient authority dog, you need to lack intelligence, capacity for critical thought and a conscience culminating in a hive minded, cowardly approach to the world.

Most cops become cops because their partners are cops too - so there's a genetic and sociological component to it too. Cops usually have a stomach turning pedigree.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Woman returns from a cruise.
Cops arrest her because they don't bother to check her name.
It's similar to the one they want to arrest, but not the same.
This gal was older. And her picture was different too.
Heaven forbid that cops should check names & look at pictures to
be sure they're going to abuse the correct person. They don't care.

She sits in jail for several days, including Xmas.
Body cavity searches....freezing temperature....blaring rock music.
Oopsie!
Wrong person.
Still didn't let her go right away.
Why bother, eh. She's just an arrested civilian.

Taxpayers will pay this bill.

Well Texas and Florida, what do you expect?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well Texas and Florida, what do you expect?
They're pretty bad.
But then I remember that others are just as bad,
eg, MN, NY, CA. And Arizona seems even worse.
Being red or blue appears to make no difference.
 
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