Why are "some" right-wing conservatives so intellectually dishonest?

[outlawState]

Are his terms of being persecuted based on that he can't persecute others without any consequence? I had a similar discussion with a former friend saying he feels persecuted as a Christian man since it is no longer socially acceptable to bash/persecute gay people. Cray cray right?

What he was alluding to was the tyranny of the miniorities. We live under a legal system that forces us to tolerate immorality or every persuasion, provided it amounts to a State-recognized "minority." Such immorality is real, destructive and soul destroying. For instance, in the UK there is the State-recognized "traveller community" which are basically a bunch of State-sponsored vagabonds who travel around committing crimes with almost total impunity, whom it is illegal to persecute in any way.

Just because you are in a technical minority does not mean to say that you have any inherent right to be recognized as exceptional.Gays are evangelists for a political / religious cause which many find repulsive. No longer is it about what people do in private. Such was an intellectually dishonest argument. It was always about whether society must accept "gay evangelism."

So even if social conservatives are intellectually dishonest in your eyes, the dishonesty of the openly communist and subversive left wing is easily on a par with it, and frequently exceeds it.

 

[outlawState]

Pathetic.

Truth is pathetic to you? May be you need to read up on Marx.

 

[YmirGF]

That's pretty funny. No, like this dude is really serious about his beliefs. I thought him believing Alex Jones verbatim like its gospel was funny but his antics are really getting annoying. He really believes in the "Deep State" theory and the lizard people theory and the aliens making pacts with the government.

Based on this I'd say that he is not your average conservative then. A nut job, perhaps, but only superficially a conservative. Hmmm, sorta like Trump.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

All are only equal vis-à-vis their status as humans and in relation to the divine. Amongst men, there is neither equality nor any right to equality except before the law. You are preaching communism. In fact I would say that you are an ipso facto dyed-in-the-wool communist.

You can stop clinging desperately to your 'reds under the bed' phobia that there are communists in your soup now. It's sooo last century.

 

[Cacotopia]

What he was alluding to was the tyranny of the miniorities. We live under a legal system that forces us to tolerate immorality or every persuasion, provided it amounts to a State-recognized "minority." Such immorality is real, destructive and soul destroying. For instance, in the UK there is the State-recognized "traveller community" which are basically a bunch of State-sponsored vagabonds who travel around committing crimes with almost total impunity, whom it is illegal to persecute in any way.

Just because you are in a technical minority does not mean to say that you have any inherent right to be recognized as exceptional.Gays are evangelists for a political / religious cause which many find repulsive. No longer is it about what people do in private. Such was an intellectually dishonest argument. It was always about whether society must accept "gay evangelism."

So even if social conservatives are intellectually dishonest in your eyes, the dishonesty of the openly communist and subversive left wing is easily on a par with it, and frequently exceeds it.

Remind me where there are packs of gay men roaming American streets forcing other people to turn gay? Or gay couples kicking doors down on a nice Christian family dinners only to descend upon each other with ravenous sexual fervor.

Please tell me where they are destroying the fabric of society.

Openly communist left wing party? You're a joke. Pretty sure they are all capitalists.

 

[Cacotopia]

OOOOOOooooOOOOO people that don't think like me, I don't like people that don't think like me, let's make up stuff about them then call it truth.

He gives money to charity, He must be a communist, throw him in jail. Gays caused unemployment to go up and natural disasters to occur with greater frequency. All gays are abused and come from broken homes, they are also all sexual predators, anyone that doesn't believe in god, has a very high chance of raping women and committing crimes because they have no control over their own urges, and have no moral code. Priest having sex with kids is just a conspiracy, I miss the good ole when good god fearing white folk owned people, and women stayed in the kitchen where they belong. As god intended it.

This is how you sound to me.

 

[Curious George]

A work colleague of mine sent me a text this morning showing me a picture of a shirt that he bought which read:

"Obama played the race card, Hillary played the woman card, America played the Trump card."

Cute right?

No. Why on earth would he think it was okay to send that to anyone with whom he works professionally?

Of all the stupid Alex Jones conspiracy theories he always like to discuss at work, I was really annoyed with what the shirt said and how dishonest it was. Considering Obama being the first African-American president ever in history and considering he was the most threatened of any president, I thought it was a intellectually dishonest statement any conservative could make in regards to Obama. Racism, race relations, as well as issues of systemic racism were all concrete components of America prior to Obama. When I mentioned about the various hanging effigy's that were created and popped up in conservative circles my colleague acted like he was unaware of these things. After posting several links of articles discussing them, he deflected talking about Obama's policies. "But, but, but, muh guns, and Obama bringing them illegals in!" I guess forget the fact that Obama's administration has deported more illegal immigrants than previous presidents, and forget the fact that Obama was subject to the Birther movement which Trump endorse and later retracted publically.

It is frustrating when people refuse to acknowledge truth in favor of a popular narrative.

I also really love how my colleague talks about the current trend of discriminated "Christian white males" and how this demographic is under attack. I guess he is one of the many whiners among the MGTOW group.

I wonder what this guys perspective is and how to reach people like him often.

On a side note, is it fair to offer the OP title without qualifiers? Is it because using "some" does not sound as good or is less catching?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Have you told him that Alex Jones went on record to say that everything he does is an act?

No, never got that far since sometimes we both have funny schedules.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

So you generalized that “right wing conservatives”, as a group, are dishonest based on the purported actions of one individual. That’s a form of discrimination.

I don’t agree with your opinion (it is only an opinion, not a fact) that Obama was the most threatened President ever.

"President Barack Obama is the target of more than 30 potential death threats a day and is being protected by an increasingly over-stretched Secret Service. He is the most threatened President in history."

See:SECRET SERVICE SAYS THE NUMBER OF THREATS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT IS OVERWHELMING · Causes

Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

"Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.

Some threats to Mr Obama, whose Secret Service codename is Renegade, have been publicised, including an alleged plot by white supremacists in Tennessee late last year to rob a gun store, shoot 88 black people, decapitate another 14 and then assassinate the first black president in American history."

See:Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

 

[Woberts]

All are only equal vis-à-vis their status as humans and in relation to the divine. Amongst men, there is neither equality nor any right to equality except before the law. You are preaching communism. In fact I would say that you are an ipso facto dyed-in-the-wool communist.

People are probably tired of me preaching about the glories of communism defending communism, but I guess I'll pull on my ushanka and get ready to destroy the fabric of society[citation needed].

It was always about whether society must accept "gay evangelism."

So you think that it's a problem for gay people to be accepted as people, without worry of being ridiculed for something they have no control over?

Such immorality is real, destructive and soul destroying.

First, immorality is subjective, and a flawed concept. Second, why does it matter?

So even if social conservatives are intellectually dishonest in your eyes, the dishonesty of the openly communist and subversive left wing is easily on a par with it, and frequently exceeds it.

Again, subjective. Also, why are you using the term "communist" like an insult? Communism is not inherently bad, just like capitalism isn't inherently bad. It's just hijacked by someone looking to exploit it.
Anyway, I'm off to corrupt your children with my heretical ideas about concepts such as "equality".

 

[Audie]

A work colleague of mine sent me a text this morning showing me a picture of a shirt that he bought which read:

"Obama played the race card, Hillary played the woman card, America played the Trump card."

Cute right?

Of all the stupid Alex Jones conspiracy theories he always like to discuss at work, I was really annoyed with what the shirt said and how dishonest it was. Considering Obama being the first African-American president ever in history and considering he was the most threatened of any president, I thought it was a intellectually dishonest statement any conservative could make in regards to Obama. Racism, race relations, as well as issues of systemic racism were all concrete components of America prior to Obama. When I mentioned about the various hanging effigy's that were created and popped up in conservative circles my colleague acted like he was unaware of these things. After posting several links of articles discussing them, he deflected talking about Obama's policies. "But, but, but, muh guns, and Obama bringing them illegals in!" I guess forget the fact that Obama's administration has deported more illegal immigrants than previous presidents, and forget the fact that Obama was subject to the Birther movement which Trump endorse and later retracted publically.

I also really love how my colleague talks about the current trend of discriminated "Christian white males" and how this demographic is under attack. I guess he is one of the many whiners among the MGTOW group.

Political slogans are generally neither "true" nor very intellectual.

Here is one from the gwb v that french looking guy campaign

Georgie porgie was a pretzle
Couldnt get elected
Tried to win his dadfys war
Thought he'd be respected.

Then there's hillary, calling trump's
(Stupid and invidious) birther thing a
"Racist lie". Not racist, not a lie but hey,
it was for sure a slogan.

i dont think either team deserves much respect.
Just using our nation and its treasure for their
gaming field.

 

[Stanyon]

A work colleague of mine sent me a text this morning showing me a picture of a shirt that he bought which read:

"Obama played the race card, Hillary played the woman card, America played the Trump card."

Cute right?

Of all the stupid Alex Jones conspiracy theories he always like to discuss at work, I was really annoyed with what the shirt said and how dishonest it was. Considering Obama being the first African-American president ever in history and considering he was the most threatened of any president, I thought it was a intellectually dishonest statement any conservative could make in regards to Obama. Racism, race relations, as well as issues of systemic racism were all concrete components of America prior to Obama. When I mentioned about the various hanging effigy's that were created and popped up in conservative circles my colleague acted like he was unaware of these things. After posting several links of articles discussing them, he deflected talking about Obama's policies. "But, but, but, muh guns, and Obama bringing them illegals in!" I guess forget the fact that Obama's administration has deported more illegal immigrants than previous presidents, and forget the fact that Obama was subject to the Birther movement which Trump endorse and later retracted publically.

I also really love how my colleague talks about the current trend of discriminated "Christian white males" and how this demographic is under attack. I guess he is one of the many whiners among the MGTOW group.

There were no more threats against Obama than any other president but it was a popular intellectually dishonest meme that seemed to play on racially charged politics, a favourite tactic of the left to attempt to cause division and racial tensions where there is none. If there was as much racism against African Americans as is claimed one would think that there would be enough concrete examples without having to create them.
"The liars dwell in the world of make believe"

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Wow! Way to slam entire regions of the country with sweeping false generalizations and stereotypes.

I love it when a supposed Jew says this considering the following:

Considering she voted for Trump who said this:

"I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money,” Trump said, according to the 1991 biography. “I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

 

[Epic Beard Man]

There were no more threats against Obama than any other president but it was a popular intellectually dishonest meme that seemed to play on racially charged politics, a favourite tactic of the left to attempt to cause division and racial tensions where there is none. If there was as much racism against African Americans as is claimed one would think that there would be enough concrete examples without having to create them.
"The liars dwell in the world of make believe"

How quickly conservatives forget attacks on Barack Obama

 

[Epic Beard Man]

No. Why on earth would he think it was okay to send that to anyone with whom he works professionally?




It is frustrating when people refuse to acknowledge truth in favor of a popular narrative.

I wonder what this guys perspective is and how to reach people like him often.

On a side note, is it fair to offer the OP title without qualifiers? Is it because using "some" does not sound as good or is less catching?

Fixed

 

[Audie]

So you generalized that “right wing conservatives”, as a group, are dishonest based on the purported actions of one individual. That’s a form of discrimination.

I don’t agree with your opinion (it is only an opinion, not a fact) that Obama was the most threatened President ever. I would say it was probably Abraham Lincoln. He was despised during his time and relentlessly threatened even before he took office. Lincoln was burned in effigy too, and probably more often than Obama. Lincoln received death threats continuously. There were many times mobs threatened him. It was so bad that Lincoln literally had to enter Washington D.C. in disguise and on an unscheduled train to avoid rioting mobs that threatened to kill him before he could be sworn in. That never happened to Obama. Lincoln was even threatened with insurrection and credible coup d’etat threats from his own military officers. Of course ultimately Lincoln was assassinated, validating the credibility of the threats against him. Yeah, Obama was not the most threatened President ever.

There's threats, and there's threats. What was the nature of these "30 a day"?

There 's racism, and there's racism.

Someone wrote "Chink" on my dorm door.
I was pretty upset, but I patiently figured out
whose writing it was.

When I confronted him, with others present,
he was very apologetic.

Then there's racism like the exclusion act and
all the mistrestment of Asians in the USA.

As racism and threats go, I dont think Obama
has exactly suffered.

Side note,

These days, it is safe to be sexist and racist if the
target is white males.

 

[shunyadragon]

"Some?" How about most. An over riding religious agenda tRumps a rational and intellectually honest alternatives.

 

[Audie]

"Some?" How about most. An over riding religious agenda tRumps a rational and intellectually honest alternatives.

Works that way with religion v science.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

So you generalized that “right wing conservatives”, as a group, are dishonest based on the purported actions of one individual. /QUOTE]
Missed the "some" right there in the title?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

All are only equal vis-à-vis their status as humans and in relation to the divine. Amongst men, there is neither equality nor any right to equality except before the law. You are preaching communism. In fact I would say that you are an ipso facto dyed-in-the-wool communist.

Wow.