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Why are suicide bombers almost always Muslim?

Spiderman

Veteran Member
In Islam, suicide killing is totally forbidden and the one who knows the ruling and goes ahead will spend eternity suffering the same form of suicide over and over again.

Do not take life, which Allah made sacred, other than in the course of justice. Qur'an 17:33

Allah decides how long each of us will live:
When their time comes they cannot delay it for a single hour nor can they bring it forward by a single hour. Qur'an 16:61

And no person can ever die except by Allah's leave and at an appointed term.
Qur'an 3:145

Destroy not yourselves. Surely Allah is ever merciful to you. Qur'an 4:29

The Prophet said: "Amongst the nations before you there was a man who got a wound, and growing impatient (with its pain), he took a knife and cut his hand with it and the blood did not stop till he died. Allah said, 'My Slave hurried to bring death upon himself so I have forbidden him (to enter) Paradise.'" Sahih Bukhari 4.56.669
Good to know! Thank you
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
They become terrorists for the same reason elsewhere other young men join gangs. being part of a terrorist organization gives them a sense of identity and power, even if that power is to murder innocents.
They answer the call to fight oppression,whether that be to fight invading armies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia or civil war in places like Bosnia. Nothing to do with wanting to kill innocent people. Yes some feel justified in killing innocent people, just as French bombs kill innocent civilians in war zones. Muslims also remember the genocide committed by the French in Algeria, where up to 15% of the population perished under France's 2 Decades of occupation. To date, I don't think the French have ever apologised.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Why is it so rare to hear of a suicide bombers that is doing it for another faith besides Islam?

Without trolling, please explain why you think this is?

It's just always interested me that someone could think they would have reward in heaven for committing suicide and taking out innocent people in the process. It's just mind-boggling to me that anyone can have such convictions!

Why do such convictions come from Muslims more than adherents of all other faith combined?
Peace be on you.
There have been others too.
Suicide attack - Wikipedia

Current so-called muslims involvement [as many of them do not practice Islam well, and even do not know basic teaching of islam] is due to fanatic religious leaders with political agenda who play in the hidden hands of western weapons sellers.
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Allah decides how long each of us will live:
When their time comes they cannot delay it for a single hour nor can they bring it forward by a single hour. Qur'an 16:61

And no person can ever die except by Allah's leave and at an appointed term.
Qur'an 3:145

If I understand well, you believe Allah is the most powerful being in the universe and he gets to decide when people live and die. So when someone commits a murder, that person is taking Allah's place in making that decision, messing with his plans for the victims life. After all, Allah had decided how long that person was going to live but that's not going to happen anymore because the murderer took their life.
Does that mean murderers are more powerful than Allah? If he allows them to decide when people die, they must be, but that would invalidate what you just posted.
If Allah is the one deciding when people live and die, how come he doesn't? Why does he allow terrorists and other forms of evil to make that decision in his place?
Please explain.
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes some feel justified in killing innocent people, just as French bombs kill innocent civilians in war zones. Muslims also remember the genocide committed by the French in Algeria, where up to 15% of the population perished under France's 2 Decades of occupation. To date, I don't think the French have ever apologised.

Killing innocent people is never justified. The French never apologized but they should. What they did was horrible and should never have happened.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Factors that are important to consider:
  • Show me the Statistics. This should be the first question on everyone's mind. Until we have actual data on the rates of suicide bombings worldwide combined with other demographic information about the bombers, I'm not sure we can fairly begin addressing the topic at all. Where and if such data exists, it is equally important to be mindful of biases in the data. Namely, it seems unlikely that all nations worldwide will be equally scrupulous with their record keeping on such matters.
  • Media Bias. This is the major reason why seeing statistics is so important. Not only is the media itself biased - you will see more coverage of stories that match prevailing or popular cultural narratives - but our consumption of that media is biased. Put another way, our awareness of incidents is not statistically representative and should not be used to make fact-based conclusions about frequency of events.

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BSM1

What? Me worry?
Because Muslim terrorists tend to have little to work with.
As opposed to Christians who have $3 million fighter/bombers from which they can drop bombs from 20000 feet.
Christian terrorists are just richer than Muslim terrorists. And possibly more cowardly, but I am not sure about that. Syrians used their fighter jets as well as the Usonian military.
Tom

First of all, 3 mil wouldn't even be a down payment on a US bomber. Secondly, the pilots that fly these magnificent birds of prey are generally not suicidal. Rather you like it or not, there are evil people in this world that wish others harm. They have to be dealt with.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
First of all, 3 mil wouldn't even be a down payment on a US bomber. Secondly, the pilots that fly these magnificent birds of prey are generally not suicidal. Rather you like it or not, there are evil people in this world that wish others harm. They have to be dealt with.
That is not really even halfway a justification for the coward activity that are air bombings.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
They answer the call to fight oppression,whether that be to fight invading armies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia or civil war in places like Bosnia. Nothing to do with wanting to kill innocent people. Yes some feel justified in killing innocent people, just as French bombs kill innocent civilians in war zones. Muslims also remember the genocide committed by the French in Algeria, where up to 15% of the population perished under France's 2 Decades of occupation. To date, I don't think the French have ever apologised.
Tell me about that oppression that they are supposedly fighting.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
First of all, 3 mil wouldn't even be a down payment on a US bomber. Secondly, the pilots that fly these magnificent birds of prey are generally not suicidal. Rather you like it or not, there are evil people in this world that wish others harm. They have to be dealt with.

The point is that the pilots do not need to be suicidal when their billion dollar equipment offsets the need.

Concerning the OP, it's guerrilla warfare. It has to do with costs and tactics.

Religion probably is a secondary factor. Those that instruct and enlists suicide bombers probably know better even if they are Muslim, themselves.
 
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QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Why is it so rare to hear of a suicide bombers that is doing it for another faith besides Islam?

Without trolling, please explain why you think this is?

It's just always interested me that someone could think they would have reward in heaven for committing suicide and taking out innocent people in the process. It's just mind-boggling to me that anyone can have such convictions!

Why do such convictions come from Muslims more than adherents of all other faith combined?

Terrorism and suicide bombings are almost always carried out by people who feel powerless to affect change in any other manner. The reality is that in this day and age people from Muslim countries are far more likely to live under repressive regimes where people are far more compelled to resort to drastic actions in order to be heard. I suspect that if the roles were reversed and we lived in a world where majority Muslim nations had been imposing brutal dictatorships on predominantly Christian nations for many decades that you'd find many desperate and powerless Christians resorting to similar tactics.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
As one would expect, it comes mainly from the characteristics of Islaamic doctrine itself. Studies of the Qur'aan make it clear that a very large part of it is indeed encouragement of taking refuge on the presumed righteouness of the doctrine as contrasted to the untrustworthy kuffar.

Anyone with a modicum of background on social psychology can tell you how dangerous such encouragement of a "us vs them" mentality is. People all too easily become paranoid of not making it clear that they are "on the right side" even if it involves personal sacrifice and destructive behavior.

Quite simply, there is little comparable on other doctrines anywhere near as popular as Islaam. Which brings us to a second factor: Islaam encourages Muslims to keep to themselves and to insist on conversion before extending any significant amount of trust. While that directive is often violated, it is never seriously challenged, leading to various amounts of guilt and awkwardness that make dangerous radicalism that much more likely.

In essence, Islaam is a self-inflicted trap.

Virtually everything you say about Islam today could have been said about Christianity in its past. Christians have always had as much of an us vs. them mentality as Muslims do. Christians have used their doctrine to be just as intolerant of pagans and nonbelievers.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Terrorism and suicide bombings are almost always carried out by people who feel powerless to affect change in any other manner. The reality is that in this day and age people from Muslim countries are far more likely to live under repressive regimes where people are far more compelled to resort to drastic actions in order to be heard. I suspect that if the roles were reversed and we lived in a world where majority Muslim nations had been imposing brutal dictatorships on predominantly Christian nations for many decades that you'd find many desperate and powerless Christians resorting to similar tactics.
Christians have living under awful conditions in the Islamic Middle East for a very long time. I don't see them blowing themselves and others up.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Virtually everything you say about Islam today could have been said about Christianity in its past. Christians have always had as much of an us vs. them mentality as Muslims do. Christians have used their doctrine to be just as intolerant of pagans and nonbelievers.
Maybe so. But they have learned better, without the advantage of a similar doctrine showing them the way. And Islaam has the serious disadvantage of having the Qur'aan specifically telling them that they know better than Christianity, facts be darned.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Virtually everything you say about Islam today could have been said about Christianity in its past. Christians have always had as much of an us vs. them mentality as Muslims do. Christians have used their doctrine to be just as intolerant of pagans and nonbelievers.
I don't think Christians are noticeably different from what they used to be.

From WWII to the invasion of Iraq, Christians are all about war. Just like they were centuries ago.
Tom
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If I understand well, you believe Allah is the most powerful being in the universe and he gets to decide when people live and die. So when someone commits a murder, that person is taking Allah's place in making that decision, messing with his plans for the victims life. After all, Allah had decided how long that person was going to live but that's not going to happen anymore because the murderer took their life.
Does that mean murderers are more powerful than Allah? If he allows them to decide when people die, they must be, but that would invalidate what you just posted.
If Allah is the one deciding when people live and die, how come he doesn't? Why does he allow terrorists and other forms of evil to make that decision in his place?
Please explain.

I'm sure Christians are fully versed with the concept of free will.
 
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