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Why be an atheist?
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Dr. Nosophoros
Active Member
Rebellion for the sake of it is just that and offers the individual little or nothing except a cheap diversion, it passes. "rebellion" or rejecting of ideas because it is found to be useless or a wall that impedes the human spirit or potential is simply that.
Let's say you have a pink flamingo in your yard simply because your parents had one, the society you are in approved of them and most everyone else has one (except the strange people- but they live on the other side of town), everyone raves about the genious of the pink flamingos in their yard and the stability that they give them and society. There are great orators that tell you of the rules the pink flamingos pass through them as well as the mythology which differ little from childrens fairy tales. In your heart, you see them as just a piece of ugly, useless plastic and the stories nonsense- if you pull it up and throw it away is that rebellion or just a realization?
Let's say you have a pink flamingo in your yard simply because your parents had one, the society you are in approved of them and most everyone else has one (except the strange people- but they live on the other side of town), everyone raves about the genious of the pink flamingos in their yard and the stability that they give them and society. There are great orators that tell you of the rules the pink flamingos pass through them as well as the mythology which differ little from childrens fairy tales. In your heart, you see them as just a piece of ugly, useless plastic and the stories nonsense- if you pull it up and throw it away is that rebellion or just a realization?
cardero
Citizen Mod
Robtex,
It also took me many years to decide if I wanted to engage or discontinue a REALationship with GOD (I was 34 years old!). Now that I have gotten to K(NOW) GOD, I cannot become an atheist. It would also be very hard to leave this REALationship. I am not trapped into it, I am intrigued by it. A REALationship with GOD is not mandatory in this physical existence. A REALationship with GOD is not for everybody.
What I mean by REAL REALationship is:
No one entity can ever obtain a REALationship with another entity through a book. No one entity can ever support a REALationship vicariously through someone elses REALationship with another entity. Through personal experience the best way to encourage a REALationship with any entity that you are interested in getting to K(NOW) is to engage it yourself. If the entity does not return an interest or has no interest in getting to K(NOW) me or a connection cannot be found, then that is fine.
Faith is not an acceptable way to get to K(NOW) GOD (or anyone for that matter). GOD has always known who we were and GOD did not require faith in knowing us (I K(NOW) that NOW) it would be only considerate if I was to return the same thoughtfulness.
There are a multitude of reasons that people become atheist. I listed the most common ones that I have personally experienced. I do not blame or dissuade anyone who decides to become an atheist, that is their own choice but the detail remains that just by not believing in something/someone/sometime or just because someone/something/sometime does not provide the evidence or PROOF that one requires does not mean that it does not exist only our concept or our awareness of it does not exist.
It also took me many years to decide if I wanted to engage or discontinue a REALationship with GOD (I was 34 years old!). Now that I have gotten to K(NOW) GOD, I cannot become an atheist. It would also be very hard to leave this REALationship. I am not trapped into it, I am intrigued by it. A REALationship with GOD is not mandatory in this physical existence. A REALationship with GOD is not for everybody.
What I mean by REAL REALationship is:
No one entity can ever obtain a REALationship with another entity through a book. No one entity can ever support a REALationship vicariously through someone elses REALationship with another entity. Through personal experience the best way to encourage a REALationship with any entity that you are interested in getting to K(NOW) is to engage it yourself. If the entity does not return an interest or has no interest in getting to K(NOW) me or a connection cannot be found, then that is fine.
Faith is not an acceptable way to get to K(NOW) GOD (or anyone for that matter). GOD has always known who we were and GOD did not require faith in knowing us (I K(NOW) that NOW) it would be only considerate if I was to return the same thoughtfulness.
There are a multitude of reasons that people become atheist. I listed the most common ones that I have personally experienced. I do not blame or dissuade anyone who decides to become an atheist, that is their own choice but the detail remains that just by not believing in something/someone/sometime or just because someone/something/sometime does not provide the evidence or PROOF that one requires does not mean that it does not exist only our concept or our awareness of it does not exist.
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painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
ah, but its hard to imagine having a relationship with something that you don't believe in. 
No evidence to support belief then no feeling you have need for a relationship.
Just because there is no evidence of Santa Claus doesn't mean he doesn't want to give you a toy truck this christmass.
wa:do
No evidence to support belief then no feeling you have need for a relationship.
Just because there is no evidence of Santa Claus doesn't mean he doesn't want to give you a toy truck this christmass.
wa:do
Lycan
Preternatural
IMHO -
There are 2 reasons, I believe, the "demonization" as someone put it occurs....
1. Christianity seems to think it "corners the market" on morality, charity, and graciousness and for all intensive purposes,it is supposed to, according to the religion. But the number of christians that actually display these traits, in my experience, are few and far between. Anyway, I digress, I think if most christians actually acknowledged the fact that a person can be moral and not believe in god, then their religion loses some of it's exclusivity.
2. For members of christianity that accept spoonfed beliefs and blind faith, if they acknowledged moral existance outside of their religion, they may start that pesky questioning that will send them to hell. Some people are happy with the sheep mentality....
Disclaimer : Don't get me wrong, I don't want to actually insult anyone for their beliefs, but I believe strongly in questioning it. If whatever their religion is, satified their questions, then fine, they can believe as they will, but I feel that sheep mentality is a dangerous thing....<Don't get me wrong, I don't want to actually insult anyone for their beliefs, but I believe strongly in questioning it. If whatever their religion is, satified their questions, then fine, they can believe as they will, but I feel that sheep mentality is a dangerous thing....>
I agree. One ought not be afraid of questioning ones religion nor fear the answers. One who is secure in faith does not. Problem is too many carry too much
baggage from childhood religious education. They never 'grew up' in their faith.
I really believe there are a greater number of agnostics than atheists, that its
the Judeo/Christian interpretive system that is not accepted, as opposed to a wholly Other. When it comes to morality, many non-believers would put Christians to shame
and can show us how to 'do the will of God'. We might even call them 'anonymous
Christians' and consider them 'saved' since Christ's salvation is extended to ALL humanity and there is no outside of Christ.
I agree. One ought not be afraid of questioning ones religion nor fear the answers. One who is secure in faith does not. Problem is too many carry too much
baggage from childhood religious education. They never 'grew up' in their faith.
I really believe there are a greater number of agnostics than atheists, that its
the Judeo/Christian interpretive system that is not accepted, as opposed to a wholly Other. When it comes to morality, many non-believers would put Christians to shame
and can show us how to 'do the will of God'. We might even call them 'anonymous
Christians' and consider them 'saved' since Christ's salvation is extended to ALL humanity and there is no outside of Christ.
Well, shucks. We don't believe in you!linwood said:
DoubtingNate
Member
no, the main reason is because we don't think God exists!
Also that we don't need a God to tell us how to be moral. Morality is based on human empathy, not some divine command.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Atheist are that because they have no belief in a god, you don't need a belief in a god to be a good person, most people in prison are religious.
Not even remotely. If anything, it is the opposite of truth. Many people hold to odd beliefs because they hope to justify or attain social acceptance for unhealthy morals and lifestyles with them.
At the very least.
Not too few people are literally raised already inside a discourse of fear and superstition and either never learned better or are too paralyzed with fear to dare to learn better.
Some actually expect atheists to lack morals because they don't expect to be punished in the afterlife, which says quite a lot of how little faith they have.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Posting in his threads will not bring him back. But we can always try.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Why be an atheist?
There is no need , reason or compulsion to be an atheist.
Regards
There is no need , reason or compulsion to be an atheist.
Regards