Why can't god reveal himself?

[Koldo]

All that one needs to do to prove scientific realism is to reduce all conscious processes of perception, cognition and the problem of qualia to mere brain activity.

No. The alternative that everything you experience is merely a construction of your own mind would still exist, that nothing actually exists other than your mind.
You can not prove scientific realism for as long as this alternative stands. And you can not really prove it false, therefore you can never prove scientific realism to be true.

 

[confused453]

There's no god.
God got lost in space 1800 years ago.
God went to visit other planets/galaxies/universes.
God died by natural causes.
God doesn't care.
God is very busy with other work.
God is trying to reveal itself, but our senses can't pick it up.
Only Neanderthals can talk to god.

pick one or more

 

[Muffled]

I'd like to give my take on the question 'Why doesn't God reveal himself'

He does reveal himself thru creation....but we say that's just creation

He reveals himself thru nature......but we say that's just nature

He reveals himself thru life....but we say that's just biology

He reveals himself in the form of a great human being (Jesus, Krishna, etc.).......but we say that's just another human

He reveals himself in the quietude of hearts/souls......but we only notice the external chatter

He reveals himself through miracles ....but we say natural events can explain away the miracles

 

[Muffled]

If God...being spirit...was to reveal Himself....
Your linear existence would take a permanent turn of direction.

Your freewill would be compromised.

So unless you've been chosen to lead others (Moses, Jesus, Muhammad...)
then your on your own til you die.
THEN you get to stand before Him.

God does this. He doesn't mind changing a person's direction in life.

I doubt it. However God tends to reveal Himself to the willing. It would be of dubious worth to try that with the unwilling.

Those who scrub floors also serve God. Not everyone personally called is called to be famous although Mother Theresa may have become famous with an equivalent of scrubbing floors.

 

[Muffled]

There's no god.
God got lost in space 1800 years ago.
God went to visit other planets/galaxies/universes.
God died by natural causes.
God doesn't care.
God is very busy with other work.
God is trying to reveal itself, but our senses can't pick it up.
Only Neanderthals can talk to god.

pick one or more

God figures you aren't worth talking to so He lets you continue to believe that He doesn't exist.

I am not a Neanderthal.

 

[Thief]

God does this. He doesn't mind changing a person's direction in life.

I doubt it. However God tends to reveal Himself to the willing. It would be of dubious worth to try that with the unwilling.

Those who scrub floors also serve God. Not everyone personally called is called to be famous although Mother Theresa may have become famous with an equivalent of scrubbing floors.

And are you following God?...one of His prophets?....or yourself?

And then of course....
divulge His appearence if it's One on one.....
Speak of your prophet....or whoever you trust.....

Or agree with me.

 

[confused453]

God figures you aren't worth talking to so He lets you continue to believe that He doesn't exist.

I am not a Neanderthal.

Why so much abnegation?

 

[tempter]

If he did, no one would be skeptical anymore, right?

God can't reveal Himself to everyone because God's only real in the minds of those who believe in Him. Thus, He's been "revealed" to them, but no one else.

 

[Thief]

God can't reveal Himself to everyone because God's only real in the minds of those who believe in Him. Thus, He's been "revealed" to them, but no one else.

So then perhaps...He has the ability to pick and chose?

 

[TashaN]

Why does he want to test us?

I can't say that the ONLY purpose is just to test us but it's just one of the reasons which Allah told us about. The story goes back to what God said in the Quran, when the angels--who commit no sin and worship and obey God without a question for not having any free will at all--asked God, why would he create something like a mere human being who, unlike angels, is capable of doing all sorts of evil things. But God wanted man for something unique which pure angels currently not capable of, because man, will be able to use his mind to do great things as well beside evil things. He will be able to *choose* to do these good things, not to be able to do it by nature like angels. And God knows best.

And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." (Quran 2:30).

Can you explain to me how having faith in something without proof is a virtue? Wouldn't this test just show who was willing to believe wild claims without evidence? I fail to see the purpose behind this "test".

Well, each one of us see it as the right thing to do, or the path, way of life, more than just virtue. Even non-believers do virtues but will the road they take in their whole life is the right one?

The test, by the way, although i tried to simplify it but it's more than mere believing in him withouth seeing him. You need evidence to believe, and each of us has his own evidence of God's existance. Wait! i don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into another typical creation vs. evolution thread!

So to the question in the OP, why can't God reveal himself? he certainly can, but one might ask, why would he?! there are plenty of answers out there by everyone.

God bless you all.

 

[The Fog Horn]

If he did, no one would be skeptical anymore, right?

This hits the nail on the head for why the Abrahamic religions have reigned supreme for so long while all other nature cults died a death long ago. The Hebrews moved away from their physical god/gods and made him omnipresent. He was upgraded in order to survive. If the Jews still camped at the base of Mount Sinai I doubt even a Christian could deny the facts....that the Hebrews were volcano worshippers.

 

[tempter]

So then perhaps...He has the ability to pick and chose?

Sure why not? The supernatural god is made up, so there are no rules.

 

[Thief]

Sure why not? The supernatural god is made up, so there are no rules.

Your denial is noted...but this thread was not for that opportunity.

No rules?....perhaps heaven does have rules and that's why you don't see any proof 'hanging' around.

 

[tempter]

Your denial is noted...but this thread was not for that opportunity.

No rules?....perhaps heaven does have rules and that's why you don't see any proof 'hanging' around.

Heaven doesn't have rules. Heaven is a state of mind based on individuality. Just like God.
You have ten people (let's say) claiming to worship God, but with 2 or 3 different sets of rules. Therefore, the only 'rules' that exists are those that the individuals create.
The actual "God" has no rules of its own because it doesn't exist as a supreme, supernatural deity in reality.

 

[Thief]

Heaven doesn't have rules. Heaven is a state of mind based on individuality. Just like God.
You have ten people (let's say) claiming to worship God, but with 2 or 3 different sets of rules. Therefore, the only 'rules' that exists are those that the individuals create.
The actual "God" has no rules of its own because it doesn't exist as a supreme, supernatural deity in reality.

For heaven to be heaven....there is peace.
From a thread I started...I quote myself...

I've heard discussion that no matter what....we go to heaven.

THAT, I find hard to believe.

Picture yourself as Hitler....yes you can.
You make it through the gate and are escorted all around heaven.

Later that evening, you are invited to supper...with 'thirteen' others.
As you dip your bread in the bowl, a Carpenter is doing likewise.
You turn to use another bowl...and Judas is doing so as well.

(note the.... 'look in the eye'.... part)

Sounds like fun!....don't you think so!

 

[davidthegreek]

If he did, no one would be skeptical anymore, right?

He can't? too bad he didn't know that when he was incarnated by the holy spirit through virgin mary.

 

[Iti oj]

Life is a test.

If God revealed himself, we would all KNOW in God. No, no, no...that would never do.

The whole point of life is to believe in him even though there is no evidence. If you do that, then you go to heaven. Else hellfire. Both for an eternity.

Bah how is that love?

 

[Blackdog22]

Perhaps he doesn't in order to allow not to believe in him.
When everyone would see God, free will would be meaningless.

Thats about as sensible as saying God reveals himself to us so we can choose to have faith that he doesn't exist.