Agnostic75
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1robin said:I have been dealing with you on a secular basis for this issue but I need to mention some things about your take on religions. Christians do not determine what God has claimed or has established as true. The Bible claims homosexuality is an abomination. Wrong or right, no Christian has the power to make it anything other than that. That is not an argument with a person of a secular bent but it does apply when a person makes claims about revealed religion.
What evidence do you have that the original Bible said anything about same-sex behavior?
1robin said:First tell me why I should care that lesbians have less risk.
For the same reason that you care that male-to-male sexual contact is the riskiest sexual behavior. If that is important to you, it should also be important to you that female-to-female sexual contact is the least risky sexual behavior. You are of course aware that the anatomy of women is much different than the anatomy of men, and that that is the primary reason why the lesbian subsection of homosexuals have far less risk than gay men do, and less risk than heterosexual men and women do. That is why your comment about justifying homosexuality in general does not make any sense since you are comparing apples to oranges. You have committed the "fallacy of composition." Wikipedia says that the "fallacy of composition arises when one infers that something is true of the whole from the fact that it is true of some part of the whole......."
1robin said:For some reason Springer came on when I turned on the TV yesterday and I did not immediately turn it off. It just happened to be a bunch of lesbians who were no longer lesbians or that bounced back and forth.
But I have been discussing lesbians, not bisexuals like you are doing. Obviously, bisexuals have much higher risk than lesbians do. Would you recommend that bisexuals practice abstinence? If so, I would agree with you regarding cases where bisexuals have unsafe sex.
An article at Study Shows How Many Americans Are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender | The New Civil Rights Movement shows that
"close to 4% of the American adult population — identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender, and breaks down those numbers," and that 1.7% of Americans are gay, or lesbian. Of the 1.7 percent who are gay, or lesbian, just over half would be lesbians. You do not have any valid secular arguments against lesbians, or against gay men who have been monogamous for at least ten years.
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