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Why Christianity's Infatuation With Sex?

Muffled

Jesus in me
And well it might, but only because the Bible has focused so much on it, which raised my question, why?
Why does Christianity, and by extension, the Bible and it's authors, care sooo much about sex?

But it IS emphasized in the Bible, (See the quote in the OP) and a subject that does generate very strong opinions among Christians, almost all of them taking the form of "Don'ts."

Sorry, but I can't make sense of this. Please rephrase.



Other than "Virgin" branded on her forehead, how?

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I don't believe sin would be any less sinful just because people didn't know it were sin. (That's a tree falls in the woods concept).

I believe it is called the hymen.

Have you done a count, laws about sex vs laws about other things?

I don't believe sex is talked about much in church in comparison to other things. I believe in public debate people having issues with Christians usually have sexual issues.
 

The Old One

New Member
Everyone seems to be overlooking the obvious reason for control of sex by Christians. Many of the Pagan religions have rituals that appear to emulate sex acts and the Christians simply don't want people to discover some of the hidden abilities of these rituals by accident. (not that most would recognize them anyways)
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Errr. . . . the notion that a "broken" hymen is a reliable indicator of sexual intercourse was disabused many decades ago. For up-to-date information about the condition of the hymen see HERE


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However that may be I don't know of any other indicator, so as unreliable as it is, I believe it remains the only evidence.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Everyone seems to be overlooking the obvious reason for control of sex by Christians. Many of the Pagan religions have rituals that appear to emulate sex acts and the Christians simply don't want people to discover some of the hidden abilities of these rituals by accident. (not that most would recognize them anyways)

Welcome to RF. I doubt you could come up with any evidence to support that notion. Christians are not trying to control sex. However there are some practices that can be controlled and should be like rape.
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
In another thread I quoted a woman who said:
"Christianity is full of messages about sexuality and how that should be expressed for each gender. For example, we were told that women don’t really think about sex (I beg to differ) and that served to multiply my shame and it amplified the feeling that I was “not normal.” I had “too much of a sex drive.” We were told that boys were visually stimulated and thought about sex on a near constant basis. We were often told that “guys use love to get sex, while girls use sex to get love.” Married women would joke about how they tolerated sex because it was their “wifely duty,” and it helped them get their husband to take out the trash. There was no mention of women who engaged in sex enthusiastically, regularly, and for the pure enjoyment of the physical act itself. In the Bible, men were warned to stay away from women like this, because it would surely lead to ruin. Girls who were promiscuous were just “looking for love” or having “daddy issues.” Surely they couldn’t simply be interested in sex because they enjoyed it."

Although I've wondered about the Bible's various messages about sexuality, I've never asked, Why? Why does Christianity, and by extension, the Bible and it's authors, care sooo much about sex, and why do they feel the need to control how others engage in it?

Any thoughts?
I could take all the words about bible Christianity, religion and/or other religions out of the paragraph and say that it matches stereotypes of non believers. I've heard them say that too.
What your referring to is called a stigma.
Even in some cases a bit of stigmata LOL; where they curse themselves because of others shame or something that happened that they can not change, or they beat themselves for having ideological fear that it wouldn't be a special relationship. Or that they two; have beliefs that can not go together. And sometimes they realize it's not and they may have it because of something that wasn't actually shared, like love or tossed out.
And I enjoy sex even as with love (for betterment and 2 person, the special.)
FYI I do not consider it when the things as of now even apply, a lust of the flesh, or separated from God.
 
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meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Because it feels so good?????

Probably to keep sex among two consenting partners thus avoiding the jealous syndrome.
Thoughts?
To avoid confusion about who daddy is?
I mean with child support and all.
To make for a family unit.
After all the family unit is the basic building block of a society.
All those things can be good;
daddy is meaningful
family is too
and as for sex among two consenting partners thus avoiding the jealous syndrome, jealous is natural whether its based on that or not and it's different from envy.
The way you explained the jealous syndrome I would say that is sometimes is just abuse, that various against those without provocation.
Some may think its absolutely necessary to keep a relationship or they like to do it.
Which with me it was the opposite, got it abusive that if I didn't show jealousy then I didn't show "love." Matter of fact family was saying that I had to do it. It was ideal of their family too. And then they just played games which I could see through it and was like if you want to be with others leave. That back fired and made them angry. And they did cruel stuff even after I headed for none stop faithless, to just their toss and abandonment. And then later mine got in the way. But it was emotionally moving for them so it got them angry it got them some sort of emotional high, even following, it gave them a source.
I tried to figure it out what I did "wrong", and I tried the other way around. It was like yeah right you don't really care about that. They didn't emotionally care; they only cared it was emotionally affecting me. It sometimes may have affected them. Matter of fact after all of that; they played the God card at the end. LOL I was like go f yourself.
But as childish as it was I forgave them, I just messed myself up in the process.
And I did pray that if I ever get a chance to be jealous or to express it in true way and about love, not emotionally use; and that if it was not on second handed abuse, I would.
And I did. I slept like a baby afterward. I realized that was first time I got to have that based on love and not provocation.
The other person my significant other; I think or question if it was envy. I think he understood that it was not. But I slept like a baby, I finally could know the difference and I didn't see it coming.
Like the difference being proud of yourself or happy with yourself and pride.
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
However that may be I don't know of any other indicator, so as unreliable as it is, I believe it remains the only evidence.
So you're willing to use unreliable evidence to tell if a girl is a virgin or not. Do you know how asinine this is?


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Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Although I've wondered about the Bible's various messages about sexuality, I've never asked, Why? Why does Christianity, and by extension, the Bible and it's authors, care sooo much about sex, and why do they feel the need to control how others engage in it?

Any thoughts?
Religions tend to promote moral codes, which define safe and appropriate social behavior. It is obvious that sex and reproduction will affect social relationships, so it makes sense that the Abrahamic religions will have a lot to say on the subject. God, like any good "parent", attempts to dictate appropriate behavior, so he is obviously going to try to guide and control his "children". It is just unfortunate that the moral code it promotes is over two thousand years old and no longer a good fit for modern circumstances. We have more effective methods of modern contraception and health maintenance, so that is obviously going to have a big impact on modern rules of engagement between the sexes. We still have to worry about things like inbreeding, sexually-transmitted diseases, overpopulation, and child rearing, but religious conservatives will try to shoehorn the old rules of engagement into modern life. Religious liberals seem better able to rationalize doctrine with the needs of modern individuals and families.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Religions tend to promote moral codes, which define safe and appropriate social behavior.
While the Bible certainly defines what it considers to be appropriate social behavior, it goes much further and defines appropriate private sexual behavior, and, in my opinion, to an excessive degree. And, of course, there's no indication that its sexual moral codes have anything to do with safety.

It is obvious that sex and reproduction will affect social relationships, so it makes sense that the Abrahamic religions will have a lot to say on the subject.
If it had stopped at that there would be no issue; however, it goes beyond that, issuing edicts about the whos and hows of sexual behavior that have nothing to do with reproduction.

God, like any good "parent", attempts to dictate appropriate behavior, so he is obviously going to try to guide and control his "children".
Fine, but compared to all other kinds of behavior there's an extraordinary focus on sexual behavior. And, of course, a lot of the [in]appropriateness is not supported by reason, but simply decreed.

It is just unfortunate that the moral code it promotes is over two thousand years old and no longer a good fit for modern circumstances. We have more effective methods of modern contraception and health maintenance, so that is obviously going to have a big impact on modern rules of engagement between the sexes. We still have to worry about things like inbreeding, sexually-transmitted diseases, overpopulation, and child rearing, but religious conservatives will try to shoehorn the old rules of engagement into modern life. Religious liberals seem better able to rationalize doctrine with the needs of modern individuals and families.
That they do. :thumbsup:


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whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
My my my... fornicate is form the latin related to a small road off the main track where someone goes for some sexual liassan.. like 42nd street... hardly a made up term

Sex is a gift and best enjoyed when used as God commands. There are various ways this has been distorted.

There is a tie to other behaviour and Jesus said "because immorality is increased most people;s love will grow cold'
 
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