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Why did Allah write the quran in a unchronological way?. An about Mary...

Rogn

Member
For example Al-alaq was the first revealed Surah... but for some reason in the quran it can be found as Surah 96, actually many early Meccan surahs can be found late in the quran. So why did Allah order them to be chronologically wrong in terms of when surahs was revealed?

Also an additional question. Although i've never liked the english name Mary, it reminds me of a middle aged woman psychopathic murderer so thats why i prefer Maria. But either way. In Quran 19:28

Quran 19:28
O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."

It confuses Miriam with Mary. Although some Apologetic muslims says this is just symbolic and not a mistake, in terms of a figure of speech. But i don't understand why Aaron of all people would have any connection with Saint Mary. Since the time periods are so far away.

Either way, would like to hear your views :3
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
For example Al-alaq was the first revealed Surah... but for some reason in the quran it can be found as Surah 96, actually many early Meccan surahs can be found late in the quran. So why did Allah order them to be chronologically wrong in terms of when surahs was revealed?
Peace be on you.
1-Need of people who were initial addressee was different. They did not know anything about new religion.
2-The message was for ever and a perfect one. Thus the final compiled shape was to be different.
3-When verse would be revealed at Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), he would instruct the inscriber where to place these verses. They were placed according to subject matter.
4-
[96:2] Convey thou in the name of thy Lord Who created,
[96:3] Created man from a clot of blood.
[96:4] Convey! And thy Lord is Most Generous,
[96:5] Who taught man by the pen,
[96:6] Taught man what he knew not.

These were very initial revealed verses, it was told that Conveyance of Divine Message should be started, it is right of God who made human, and made relation of love in his heart, God has put powers to progress in human and He want to see human progress, that is why He granted human the faculty of writing so that human should get and spread the benefit of knowledge and save it for future.......In these verses Holy Prophet (pbuh) was given the knowledge of importance of Conveying the Message, his interest was increased his courage was uplifted, importance of his duty was high lighted; same stance is taken in initially revealed chapters / surahs .........Then briefly the main matters were mentioned.

But When believers were increased. A lot of teaching had come, many non-Muslims too learned the Message. New progenies were born. Now another style was needed which was to fulfill needs for ever. Now it was not needed to say in the beginning that people are getting astray, stand up and start to Convey the message. Now it was to tell the need of Quran and responsibilities of Muslims. Non-Muslims would like to compare teachings of Islam and previous religions.

Thus it is Divine wisdom which used two different approaches.
[Ref: Tafsir Kabir, V-1, Second Ahmadiyya Muslim Khalifah of Promised Messiah (may Allah be pleased with him)]



Also an additional question. Although i've never liked the english name Mary, it reminds me of a middle aged woman psychopathic murderer so thats why i prefer Maria. But either way. In Quran 19:28

Quran 19:28
O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."

It confuses Miriam with Mary. Although some Apologetic muslims says this is just symbolic and not a mistake, in terms of a figure of speech. But i don't understand why Aaron of all people would have any connection with Saint Mary. Since the time periods are so far away.

Either way, would like to hear your views

Please read the note 2173 here:

5VC1888.jpg


Source: The Holy Quran
wwwDOTalislamDOTorg/quran/tafseer/?page=1579&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2

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Good wishes.
 
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Rogn

Member
Please read the note 2173 here:

5VC1888.jpg


Source: The Holy Quran
wwwDOTalislamDOTorg/quran/tafseer/?page=1579&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2

Ah, so it is a figure of speech then. But its weird that Allah decided to put it in there, since the quran is allah's word. I mean i know muhammad might've given some tip to Safiyya because some spoke bad of her being a jewish convert, so as a taunt, saying this would work.

But i have a question, why would Allah follow muhammad's example and put it in the quran in terms of Mary?
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
..... why would Allah follow muhammad's example and put it in the quran in terms of Mary?
Please see the answer in 9-th and 10-th lines of first paragraph of image above. Thanks. Thus Allah used the norm of then people.
 

Rogn

Member
But its a commentary that only exists in islam by people in general. How can i know that they know what Allah knows, did Allah write that in the quran?. Its not something that one can find in the bible. For example one cannot see... Sister of Jeremiah, if i'd pick a random person umm... Esther.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
For example Al-alaq was the first revealed Surah... but for some reason in the quran it can be found as Surah 96, actually many early Meccan surahs can be found late in the quran. So why did Allah order them to be chronologically wrong in terms of when surahs was revealed?

Also an additional question. Although i've never liked the english name Mary, it reminds me of a middle aged woman psychopathic murderer so thats why i prefer Maria. But either way. In Quran 19:28

Quran 19:28
O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."

It confuses Miriam with Mary. Although some Apologetic muslims says this is just symbolic and not a mistake, in terms of a figure of speech. But i don't understand why Aaron of all people would have any connection with Saint Mary. Since the time periods are so far away.

Either way, would like to hear your views :3

What evidence you have that Mary didn't have a brother called Aaron ?
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
But its a commentary that only exists in islam by people in general. How can i know that they know what Allah knows, did Allah write that in the quran?. Its not something that one can find in the bible. For example one cannot see... Sister of Jeremiah, if i'd pick a random person umm... Esther.

Though above explanation is enough but If one want to stay with wording only here, then one may consider:
a- there are similar wording too, like children of Adam, children of Israel, etc i.e. they are not literal meanings.
Like:
Matthew 1:1 The record of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham:

Luke 1:5 In the days of king of Judea, there was priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah; and he has a wife fr om the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizebeth.


Edit: biblehubDOTcom


b- Here, it is not said that it is Aaron the Prophet (brother of Moses), just an Aaron. People give name to children after revered elders, practice still continues.

c-Previous books are not judge over Quran, there are new things too in Quran.

d-Maryam was not being cordially welcome...... If one considers the meaning of word Aaron, it is 'exalted', 'high mountain' ---- And ---- Aaron was spokesman of Moses...In that case the people were just (wrongly) reminding her that exalted work was expected from her, and she should speak on behalf of child.

e-Are we 100% sure that that Maryam did not have brothers or cousins, as clearly writing? Sure not.

f- In Arabic the word brother and sister are used in wide meanings [Surah Hud, To Thamud their brother Saleh was sent and , to Aad their brother Hud was sent]

Lastly, it is a DIR.

Good wishes.
 
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Rogn

Member
Ah, the good ol King James Bible

Luke 1:5
5 In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron.

Although being sons going from sons is sorta used. If you think of kings passing on their heirs through a bloodline. I have no clue why someone would use sister as a term, that makes no sense in terms of passing the descendants of generations?
Nah, Mary probably had relatives. But Sister of Aaron is sorta suspicious since its so long time ago. That makes me think of Miriam
 
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