Why did God do it?

[Breathe]

Because without a reason there would be no purpose to our existence (unless God is making it up as he goes along). Which is all fine by me but I'm not sure about those in the world who are or have suffered for one reason or another. All for no reason? If there is no reason, then fine, but I would still expect those who believe the universe was created by a god to be able to furnish one.

Moksha? For the sake of it? He enjoys suffering? Doesn't care? Doesn't know? Left it up to chance? There are a myriad of reasons why God could have made us. An experiment? Observation of how sapient life treats itself when given sufficient cognitive faculties and the means to do so? He was lonely and wanted some people to be with him? The same reason some people want children?

There are many reasons. I'm just listing a few. I haven't given you my own belief or anything like that. I'm not here to do that.

 

[tarasan]

His ONLY son sacrificed for us? Anyway, while you may be downgrading our importance you are still not giving me a reason for either us or the universe.

ohhh so thats what you want!

yeah God made everything with importance we just serve a certian role, again giving us his only son doesnt mean he made the intire universe for us, merely that we have importance.

he made us cause he wanted to give the gift of life I guess, so thats the reason of the universe, the giving of a gift.

 

[Heneni]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

Excellent question. Why this little tiny dot called earth in the vast universe. The answer is not simple but I believe there is a reason.

When you look at the size of the earth and the size of the universe it’s not intended to make you feel insignificant but it’s intended to show you something about the creator. When you see how big it is I suppose it can both frighten and exhilarate depending on the person. If you believe in the God who made all of this, then it can give you immense courage knowing that you are part of the plans of such a creative God. The universe is a beautiful place but it’s also terribly hostile to human life. (Apart from this speck we live on). If we leave our atmosphere we are in hostile cold and life threatening environments. Yet there is a safe haven called earth. A cleft in the rock so to speak, a place to be safe.

When I look at the universe I am left speechless at such extravagance, such power and such beauty, the sheer magnitude of the forces the creator controls, the depth of his wisdom, the power of his might, and the splendor of his creativeness and I think, not THIS, but the one who MADE this, HIM I want to know!

(That’s what the universe is supposed to do for us, to beckon us towards the one who made it No wonder the greatest percentage of 'atheists' live in cities. You won’t find many atheists who grew up close to nature)

Heneni

 

[BruceDLimber]

Ok, it was love then. However, if he had not created the universe we would not have missed any of the love so, again, why?

An excellent question!

I suggest you ask Him when you meet Him.

Peace,

Bruce

 

[crocusj]

Excellent question. Why this little tiny dot called earth in the vast universe. The answer is not simple but I believe there is a reason.

When you look at the size of the earth and the size of the universe it’s not intended to make you feel insignificant but it’s intended to show you something about the creator. When you see how big it is I suppose it can both frighten and exhilarate depending on the person. If you believe in the God who made all of this, then it can give you immense courage knowing that you are part of the plans of such a creative God. The universe is a beautiful place but it’s also terribly hostile to human life. (Apart from this speck we live on). If we leave our atmosphere we are in hostile cold and life threatening environments. Yet there is a safe haven called earth. A cleft in the rock so to speak, a place to be safe.

When I look at the universe I am left speechless at such extravagance, such power and such beauty, the sheer magnitude of the forces the creator controls, the depth of his wisdom, the power of his might, and the splendor of his creativeness and I think, not THIS, but the one who MADE this, HIM I want to know!

(That’s what the universe is supposed to do for us, to beckon us towards the one who made it No wonder the greatest percentage of 'atheists' live in cities. You won’t find many atheists who grew up close to nature)

Heneni

Thanks for giving me your reason, I quite like it actually - the idea that the marvels of the universe beckons us to the marvels of the creator. And I can understand that a believer would be attracted to that. I'm not so sure that the universe is as hostile as you make out though since it is through the action and interaction of all of it at one time or another that makes this speck livable while , of course, making it obvious that this planet is the niche we must occupy. As a non believer your answer still does not help me with why bother at all since without life we humans would have missed nothing but I think I may have worded my original question clumsily or just plain wrong!

BTW I have been an atheist most of my life and lived all of it close to nature. We both see wonderment - you see a reason for this, I do not.

 

[crocusj]

An excellent question!

I suggest you ask Him when you meet Him.

Peace,

Bruce

I guess if I meet him I won't have to ask the question! (probably wont have the time as I spiral down into the fiery pit).

 

[crocusj]

Moksha? For the sake of it? He enjoys suffering? Doesn't care? Doesn't know? Left it up to chance? There are a myriad of reasons why God could have made us. An experiment? Observation of how sapient life treats itself when given sufficient cognitive faculties and the means to do so? He was lonely and wanted some people to be with him? The same reason some people want children?

There are many reasons. I'm just listing a few. I haven't given you my own belief or anything like that. I'm not here to do that.

The reason I ask is because it was what made me first question God in the first place. Even as a wee boy I just did not get it. Whenever I asked anyone whom I expected to know I never really got an answer (there may well not be one that is explainable even for believers but a child wants one). And, of course, once you ask one question you ask another and before you know it's cans open, worms everywhere.

 

[BruceDLimber]

I guess if I meet him I won't have to ask the question! (probably wont have the time as I spiral down into the fiery pit).

If you believe that then you're obviously completely unfamiliar with the Baha'i teachings about the Next Life!

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Breathe]

The reason I ask is because it was what made me first question God in the first place.

I never asked why you asked any questions, but thank you for sharing that information with me anyway.

 

[idea]

... without life we humans would have missed nothing ....

You've never done anything exciting? you need to get out more.

Why does anyone do anything? Some people act out of selfishness, some out of greed, some for mere survival - but the best reason to do anything (and I think the reason God does anything) is out of love.

btw - God did not create it - create is a mistranslation. God is cleaning up a mess He did not create.

see: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/5_creator.html
"[FONT=Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, Georgia]The English word "create" is an abstract word and a foriegn concept to the Hebrews. While we see God as one who makes something from nothing (create), the Hebrews saw God like a bird who goes about acquiring and gathering materials to build a nest (qen), the sky and earth. The Hebrews saw man as the children (eggs) that God built the nest for."

See also: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6274502/God-is-not-the-Creator-claims-academic.html

He's not done cleaning everything up yet, so don't judge what He is trying to transform before He is done, and don't blame Him for any of the evils in the world, because He did not create any of it.

[/FONT]

 

[chinu]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

That difference is that you would not be able to ask this question, then.

 

[steeltoes]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

My guess is that God did it on a dare by some lesser god.

 

[jtartar]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

crocusj,
Something that Jesus said about his Father, is very interesting to me. Notice that Jesus said: My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.
Just think about that statement!!! Rememberthat God has ALWAYS been alive, From Eternity to Eternity, God is, Jude 25, Ps 90:2.
To me that means that God has been working for eternity, because God would never sit and do nothing. This means that there is no possible telling of all the things that God has made, they we will find out so of, if we live to the coming eturnity.
I have had a theory for several years, that cannot be proven now, that the heavens go on for an eternity. The problem of our discovering the far planets and stars,is because light has not had time to reach us as yet. Man will go on discovering more wonderful things in space for eternity.
Even now men have thought of the idea that there may be numerous polyverses not a universe, that the same space could be inhabited by numerous people or things, but in a different realm.
I have to laugh when I heard that the man that ran the patent office in Washington wanted to close the patent office, because he said that all the worthwhile things have already been invented, and this was in the 1890s. Mankind will go on foreven finding new things that God created, and finding, and discovering new ideas. Man will NEVER be bored in a perfect life on earth, living endlessly in a paradise earth. Just think of what might be invented infuture time. If you can think of something, it will be done at some time in the future.
This universe as we know it, probably was NOT made for us only. It is very likely that God has a purpose to put intelligent life all over this universe. It could very well be that God allows men to travel to other planets and bring life with them, or God could create other intelligent beings out of the dust from their own planet, just like He did here. No one can even dream of all the things that God has in store for those who love Him, 1Cor 2:9.

 

[Thief]

I have always thought the act of creation was obvious.

When questioned about His name He said to Moses.....
"Tell the people..."I AM".
They who understand will then know Whose law this is!"

That says it all.

A God, whose name refers directly to existence.....speaks volumes in one expression.

Consider the moment of creation.
No light..... no sound..... no movement.....then....BANG!

Prior to the 'bang' (there was actually no sound at all)...
All things (if you call that existence something) were uniform.

The creation is actually an aberration....a disturbance in the perfection of the Void.

But without the disturbance......you cannot say...."I AM"

 

[Sir Doom]

Can you demonstrate a reason why a vast expansive universe should not be created for the sole benefit of humankind? If not, then you've already given the reason.

Why did god do it? For the sole benefit of mankind. Why would further reason be needed? If it is the SOLE reason, how could there be another reason?

 

[chinu]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

Than how you would be able to ask this question TODAY ? tell me..

 

[jtartar]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

crocusj,
The Bible says that God is Love, 1John 4:8. He is also the source of LIFE, Ps 36:9.
We can then determine that God made everything because of love. He knew that He could create inteligent living beings, for which He could be their loving Father. Just like any loving father God wanted His creatures to love Him, and He intended to shower them with, both love and gifts to make them happy, to enjoy life.
Since the Bible says that has been working until now, His creations are impossible for us to even imagine, John 5:17, 1Cor 2:9, Job 26:14, 37:5.
God, whose name is Jehovah, did not need man, He is completely happy by Himself, selfcontained, but He wanted to share the gift of life with others.
When Jesus was here, he said that he was from the realm above, John 8:23. There may be many realms, both visible and invisible.
More than likely God has a purpose for the entire visible universe, to have intelligent people living on many planets throughout the multiverse.
There are many things we do not know. One thing we do Know; God does not need us, we need God.
God has a clearly stated purpose for this earth, to have perfect people living on earth forever, in paradisaic conditions, Gen 1:26-28, Isa 45:18, Ps 37:29. God's purpose has not changed, why should this planet be unique???

 

[idea]

... God made everything because of love...

I agree, what other ultimate reason is there to do anything?

 

[Jupimartian]

As I Protestant Christian I thought that God created us because He was lonely and wanted company, that He gave us free will so that we could choose to follow Him or not, and that our purpose was to glorify God.

Well, this is what I pieced together after leaving Christianity, actually. I didn't actually understand the point of life in a Christian perspective when I was Christian.

 

[George-ananda]

I can only come at this from an omni creator god perspective so why did God do it? If the universe is 13 billion years old (or even just appears to be!) and 150 billion light years across (don't care how accurate the figures are) and is as active and complex as observation would indicate our planet is but a dot amongst it all...why? This was all created for the sole purpose of the existence of humankind? I just don't get it. Why bother...what difference would it make if nothing happened?

I believe the universe is teeming with life but life quite different from physical human life. If your position is coming from a narrow reading of the Bible, then there's your problem.