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Well I did it again, I posted my thoughts without reading the previous entrees. I believe I just wrote the same thing as "Deut. 32.8" except that I like that answer better than mine.Deut. 32 8 writes: First ignorance, and then despair.
In Islam we didn't invent any of our ideas about Allah. The ideas we have about Allah were given to us by Allah in His revelation, the Qur'an, to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).Sunstone said:Even if deity exists, all of our concepts and ideas about deity are human inventions. So, why did we invent our notions of god? What motivated us to do it?
I had posted this in another thread but I will put it here also. Man (and woman) created/discovered "God" because they were no longer hungry. If you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, once your basic needs are satisfied, you have the luxury of questioning what exactly brought you here.Sunstone said:Even if deity exists, all of our concepts and ideas about deity are human inventions. So, why did we invent our notions of god? What motivated us to do it?
A) It is not illogical at all. You reject the notion that man created God, because you are blinded by your faith. Actually, it is more illogical to believe in God. Your belief in God is based on revealed faith (which is fine, just not relevant in this thread). To carry on this conversation, you need to be able to throw off the yoke of your unquestioning faith, and open your mind to the possibility that God was created in man's image (anthropomorphization), because mankind had some underlying reason. Posts that simply prostelytize serve no purpose (in this thread, at any rate).Adrianay said:... it is compleatly illogical to say we created God, man doesnt have the power to.
Wouldn't this somewhat be a proof for God, since everybody inherentlly knows there is something else present. Actually this is a concept that Islam holds, that everybody inherentlly, deep down in there soul, knows there is a God. However some poeple choose to reject God for this world of material possesions and other things.Sunstone said:What about the notion that there is something inherent in human nature which creates concepts of deity? Something in our basic psychology?
That which is greatest is that of the human mind - very few things rival it. I don't have a desire, as you do, to submit myself to slavery of a higher being. You bow down to what you believe is a force that gives you a happy life, when really, it is you that has that power. As far as Jesus, all he has offered me is an eternal life in hell, and if that time comes, I'd be proud to live it, knowing that I'm equal, not under.Adrianay said:Why do you not desire that which is greatest, you set your hearts on materialism and popularity. Those things rot. Jesus offers you eternal life today
I agree completely. I think your link to "God" is your conscience. If we actually followed ours, we wouldn't do half of the things we do._salam_ said:Wouldn't this somewhat be a proof for God, since everybody inherentlly knows there is something else present. Actually this is a concept that Islam holds, that everybody inherentlly, deep down in there soul, knows there is a God. However some poeple choose to reject God for this world of material possesions and other things.
Unfortanately, some of us are not as superior as your self, we weren't blessed with your abilities, and acknowledge our weaknesses. I know for a fact that I am not capable of being "God's" equal.skills101 said:That which is greatest is that of the human mind - very few things rival it. I don't have a desire, as you do, to submit myself to slavery of a higher being. You bow down to what you believe is a force that gives you a happy life, when really, it is you that has that power. As far as Jesus, all he has offered me is an eternal life in hell, and if that time comes, I'd be proud to live it, knowing that I'm equal, not under.
That's an interesting thesis, but I think that it doesn't necessarily hold up. Just because there might be something inherent in our psychology that produces concepts of deity does not necessarily imply that there is an actual deity._salam_ said:Wouldn't this somewhat be a proof for God, since everybody inherentlly knows there is something else present. Actually this is a concept that Islam holds, that everybody inherentlly, deep down in there soul, knows there is a God. However some poeple choose to reject God for this world of material possesions and other things.