joelr
Well-Known Member
Ah, you seem to have made the error of assuming that if I didn't list 10 points as you just did, I didn't know of them or agree with them. You didn't even ask.
Not an error. You recommended Campbell and his take on mythology. Campbell does not believe your religion is anything but more of that mythology. He does not believe in real demigods who grant eternal life, he does not believe each national God - Yahweh, EL, Zeus, were real Gods. He believes religion is not to be taken literal but as metaphorical poetry, he does not believe in a personal God. All stated in Power of Myth. At one point he even criticizes Christianity directly as missing the point.
You do not seem to realize this, and you do not agree with this.
I'd say you have summarized a partial but pertinent several points about Campbell's views -- some of them -- but you attempted to discount or call 'bizarre' the salient one I highlighted, which suggests to me you don't want to realize it or allow it to be so. Can't tolerate considering it perhaps (?).
What you highlited was not something Campbell believes to be true. He was explaining to the Priest who was horrified at stories of sacrifice that Communion is a form of the same barbaric practice. He was giving it to the Priest. The idea that any form of consumption of a young person, divine person, any person, is archaic nonsense and we can thank the Catholic Church for continuing such nonsense into modern times.
Campbell was boasting at how he really gave that priest something to think about.
He does not think anything about the Jesus story is real except for the metaphor of dying and being re-born to your compassionate self.
Not foolishly thinking belief will favor you in the eyes of the Gods and you get into the afterlife.
Campbell finds this to be myth that has lost it's true meaning.
Campbell would find Myans eating sacrificed bodies about as useful as Communion.
As I see it, this tendency prevents you from being able to discuss, because you aren't discussing in good faith or with an open mind, but in a more of an urge to maintain an ideology. I hope that guess is wrong! I'd rather you could easily learn new things, from anyone, which is a far better state to be in.
Campbell truly loved myths, and deeply enjoyed them, as anyone watching the interviews could see, if willing to see.
I am following where truth points. Many are not. I can see Campbell loved mythology and I can see he disliked Christianity because normally intelligent people were taking the myths literal and not getting the messages.
I have no ideology outside of what is true?
And I do not want to learn things from anyone unless there is good evidence to support their claims. Otherwise why not believe Scientology, UFO suicide cults, Mormonism, Flat Earth, Race superiority groups, and any of the thousands of other groups and cults?
The answer is we should not believe them without evidence.