Spirit of Light
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Of course black lives matter. But so do all other lives too
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Why do “Black Lives Matter”?
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But black lives matter right? So there is no problem with the phrase correct?
Spirit of Light
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I just Said that, did i not?
Let me rephrase it, all human life latter, no matter skin color. I see all human as humans and they all matter equally
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Okay. But like...why is that the response to "black lives matter"? Why not..."hell yeah! Black lives do matter!" Because obviously the context for "black lives matter" is that in some way shape or form there are people (people in power no less) that don't seem to agree with the statement. And you see how saying "all lives matter" is dismissive? If I say "spoons are great!" people don't normally say "well all cutlery is great actually".
So I believe you when you say black lives matter. I believe you when you say all lives matter. I guess the question I'm really asking is do you think that black lives are not currently being disproportionately disregarded when compared to white lives?
Spirit of Light
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For a long time( hundreds of years) white man has treated black people poorly, no doubt about that. So in that regard of course black life is just as valuable as any other human with different color. Personally I do not like living in a white community, but I have no other options at the moment.
But in it self as a species all humans are equal from the beginning. What has made us different is that some people has a great ego, and need for power. And often that is the white man, those things I disagree strongly with other white people. I want people to see each other as brother and sister no matter what color our skin has.
This is the reason I said all lives matter.
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And I believe you. I can even understand your thought process. I even agree that all lives matter. But saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is gas-lighting. It doesn't add anything to the conversation. It was made as a clever distraction. Something meant to sound reasonable while dismissing the expressed concerns about the rate in which black people are being harmed by our systemic racism.
How about instead of "all lives matter" (true but irrelevant to the conversation) "black lives matter just like any lives!" (says the same thing. Is in the spirit of comradely without reducing the urgency of which we must fix these problems.) I mean admittedly that last one isn't a bop. Might need to work on it but you at least understand about the optics i'm trying to portray right?
Spirit of Light
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You have an agenda with your posts I guess. It is not wrong to say all life matter, the reason I stay away from saying black life matter is because it sounds then like black lives matter more then other lives. I do not say black lives does not matter. I say human life matter.
. . . by the color of their skin.
Samantha Rinne
Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
No!
Fewer lives are not better!
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzZY-zo74RfYpYZq87Ajkz6KQdtIVfoas
When more people are around, humans can work together. That's assuming that infrastructure works properly and no corruption exists.
What's really at stake is that there are corrupt people pulling strings. Organizing movements behind the scenes. Learn the name George Soros. He's not a kindly elderly man. Well he might be in person (though I wouldn't bank on it), but he's one of these crazy idealist types that would prefer the world burn than allow everyone to succeed in America. And not only America. Because he's not the only one who thinks like this.
The Georgia Guide Stones, Population Control and the Coming Antichrist
Read carefully. Whoever is part of this group wants to reduce the population by 94% and keep it there. Now rewatch the videos above. Doesn't this seem like the same idealistic bull? "If only there were less people, the world world be better." If there were less people, we would to kill off people! And outside the city where it looks like more people when they gather, you can walk miles in some places without seeing a soul.
If everyone grew crops in a greenhouse, we would be able to support every person living just fine. Meanwhile, read the rest of this brilliant (sarcasm!) plan. Total control of every living thing.
The only thing that I cannot be sure of is whether outsider leaders like Trump can be trusted or whether they are also pawns. That keeps me up at night wondering whether voting will actually make a difference; but then I see depraved groups like BLM and their destructive actions. I definitely don't want that sorta thing to prevail either.
It's like this. I would be fine going to our local black Baptist church (they seem conservative, and they seem to have their head on straight). But I a white person, would be accused of racism for not being in favoe of BLM. But let's examine this. BLM kills seemingly indiscriminately, knocking off both blacks and whites. They tear down states. And no, it doesn't matter that they were abolitionists. It won't even matter whether they were white. How can I say this? Because I've been watching, and noticed that in the name of erasing racism, they actually have been erasing black and Native American success.
Washington Redskins is a national emblem. Most people cheer for them. Actual Native Americans are proud of the name, most of them were against changing it.
Polls Repeatedly Show Majority of Native Americans Not Offended by Redskins Name
9 out of 10 Natives do not dislike the name. Yet they changed it. To what? Well they had a nunber of team names including Washington Codetalkers. They chose "for now" Washington Football Team. Btw, in New Jersey King Nummy Trail (honoring the actual leader of the tribe there, even if it was his English name) was long since deemed offensive. His name was erased from the road, in favor of Old Indian Trail. I don't expect them to decide on a better team name WFT from now on, unless there is pushback.
What about black erasure? Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima are seen are patronizing names for black people. Maybe so, but they are also iconic, and the people who posed for this art were successful black men and women. What this is really about is leaving monuments to black thugs (losers who never did anything great in their life, but were beaten by cops or supported Marxism) while erasing the great people, black or white, who made this country because they are offensive. Abraham Lincoln? He's on the chopping block too, despite freeing thousands of slaves. Because this is not about racist, this is about supporting Soros's agenda of population control. And this happens when people erase history and just learn to be angry.
Yes, fewer lives is better.
There is definitely a limit to the carrying capacity of earth. And also the willingness of humans to cooperate.
So, the question is not whether we can keep expanding the population. It's whether we'll control it with deliberation or keep on breeding and warring until we destroy ourselves.
Personally, I don't think humans are smart enough to make this a deliberative process, and as a result are doomed to a catastrophic collapse. As resource depletion stresses entire cultures, we'll revert to our God given nature and go to war. With all the horrible weapons we've developed in the last century or so.
We can cause more damage to the environment than the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, and I believe that we will.
Tom
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
An asteroid might well kill most of mankind and other species as well. Nature will then set about filling the gap, as it always does. I do not think anything will miss the passing of man. or civilisation as we know it.
I agree.
But that's irrelevant to my point. Plenty of religious people keep steering the human race towards disaster. Either because they relish the prospect of Armageddon or insist that their understanding of ancient people is more important than the Cold Equations.
Oh well. Religion might destroy humanity. The evidence is right there, but religion teaches people to ignore evidence and reality and stay inside their bubble of feelings and illusions.
Tom
Yes, it is obvious as the sky is Carolina Blue on a clear day at noon on the 4th of July that ALL lives matter, but that is not the point. Historically as today Black lives have not mattered in our Western tribal racist culture.
Spirit of Light
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As long I say All lives matter, that include black people too. I do not see the problem of saying all lives matter, instead of only focus on one groups.
Right wing lying sources are not valid. The extremist right wing lying propaganda is calling anything they don't like or any criminal behavior "antifa" in an attempt to keep their anti-American pro-dictatorship plan alive.
For over 200 years black lives have not mattered that is the point.
Spirit of Light
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I understand your point, and yes I agree black lives do matter.
Twilight Hue
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The issue is it still illustrates that people are actually different and requires a designation of black in order to exclude others not fitting the term.
I'm not black, so why should non blacks even bother with it?
See where that goes?
Tambourine
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Could you believe that Black people faced problems that White people don't, such as systemic racism?