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Why do Atheists exist?

How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!
 
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InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Its like they took a great many science classes, or a couple of philosophy classes, or a single class on logic.

Because it is possible to examine our universe in its splendour, magnificence, 'epicness' and wonder and say, "just because I do not understand how this came to be, does not mean that 'god X' (or any god for that matter) made it."

Simply because you have one explanation that you feel is 'correct' or a series of explanations that you think are 'possible' does not mean that your premises are right, that your reasoning is sound or that your list of potential causes are exhaustive. Theism and atheism alike rest upon belief in their explanations for things; they arrive at their explanations in different ways, but their assumption that the explanation is correct is a belief - some of those beliefs have more or less evidence to support/contradict them, but both are positions of belief.

Your insistence, here and in other threads that atheists are somehow limited in their capacity to comprehend is unwarranted and is more likely to lead to friction in your discussions.

For the record, no I am not an atheist, though some people seem to think so.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!

You think that logically everything that is magnificent needs to have been created by an inteligent being?

May I ask you,

Is your God magnificent?
 
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InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Yes it is, and it was created by me, however I am not magnificent so I don't need a creator. Magnificent or any other word (or combination of) in any human language is incapable of describing how awesome I am. *rolls eyes*
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!

Only problem is, intelligence is flawed.

Anyone can point out the magnificence of the universe. No one has yet to point out where intelligence came from. It seems like it is some form of an appendage or a peninsula developed overtime out of adaptation. It's still weak and prone to harm like a hand.
 
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kerravon

Anti-subjugator
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!
God has gone to a lot of effort to ensure there are atheists in the world so that humans can be truly free to devise their own plans.
 
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Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!

I think that when you open your mind enough, you can acknowledge that just about anything is possible; God or no God.
 
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FlyingTeaPot

Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
Yeah! Why DO atheists exist? It's almost as if they looked around for proof of god's existence and found none and decided to be intellectually honest and not ascribe anything to god unless it is proven!
 

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
However FTP, an intellectually honest atheist will then admit that such a proof logically cannot exist nor can a proof that no god exists, therefore they would be agnostic or perhaps apatheistic.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
When a man and a woman love each other, the man may get his penis in the woman´s vagina.

Afterwards a baby is born! and if this baby never believes in God or ceases to do so, he will from then on exist as an atheist.

Atheist can also happen when an atheist bites a regular person. If this regular person dies from the bite, he may become a zombie atheist, which would carry both the zombie virus and the atheist virus.

Beware from those! :eek:
 

kerravon

Anti-subjugator
However FTP, an intellectually honest atheist will then admit that such a proof logically cannot exist nor can a proof that no god exists, therefore they would be agnostic or perhaps apatheistic.
Why can't the existence of a god be logically proven? At least to the extent that anything outside of maths is ever proven. If some ghost-like image came to you, performed various violations of the laws of physics, talked directly into your brain, and showed you a video of the universe being created and zapped up a new form of life for you to take to the scientific community for analysis, wouldn't that constitute proof? Proof beyond reasonable doubt, anyway.
 

Heathen Hammer

Nope, you're still wrong
Why can't the existence of a god be logically proven? At least to the extent that anything outside of maths is ever proven. If some ghost-like image came to you, performed various violations of the laws of physics, talked directly into your brain, and showed you a video of the universe being created and zapped up a new form of life for you to take to the scientific community for analysis, wouldn't that constitute proof? Proof beyond reasonable doubt, anyway.
The answer would be 'yes' if that ever happened.
Until it does though, the answer is either 'maybe' or 'no', depending on the God.
 

cablescavenger

Well-Known Member
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!


Duh!

They didn't take a class, they took an education.
 
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cablescavenger

Well-Known Member
Why can't the existence of a god be logically proven? At least to the extent that anything outside of maths is ever proven.



Theoretically God can be logically proven, there is just one hurdle in the way that needs to be overcome, and it can be found in the definition of proof:

Proof (truth), sufficient evidence or argument for the truth of a proposition

... An atheist looks for the proof to be fulfilled before accepting the argument as true, that is the logical position to take.

The alternative is to accept everything as true unless proven otherwise, or put another way

... Congratulations. You have won the $3.2m on the Nigerian National lottery, but to release the winnings you need to send an admin fee to my bank account.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!
Splender, magnificance and epicness doesnt require an intelligence. Other then the intelligence perceiving splender, magnificance and epicness, of course :p.

And for the record, I got a price when I went out the 9:th grade for being best at things like biology and physics.
 
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