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Why do Atheists exist?

idea

Question Everything
A nature you have wholly misinterpreted.

matter exists... energy exists... intelligence/conscience/mind/spirit exists...

rocks/planets/suns/carbon/iron/liquid/solid... - different amounts and forms of matter exist.
atomic/hydro/potential/kinetic - different amounts and forms of energy exist...
plant/animal/genius... different amounts/forms of intelligence/conscience/mind/spirit exist too.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!
Because art, beauty and poetry isn't proof of god and isn't normally covered in Biology and Physics.
 
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Photonic

Ad astra!
you deny the existence of an intelligence that is greater than yourself.

Incorrect, I deny the paradox of infinite intelligence.

As to greater, well. Do you have a way to accurately measure of intelligence besides yourself, idea?
 

FlyingTeaPot

Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
However FTP, an intellectually honest atheist will then admit that such a proof logically cannot exist nor can a proof that no god exists, therefore they would be agnostic or perhaps apatheistic.

Gnosis deals with knowledge, not beliefs. I do not think that the existence of god is unknowable. I just think that the time will come when physicists will know more about where the universe came from.

Also, which god are we talking about? And why cannot proof for god exist? Why would that be illogical?

Note that when I talk about being an atheist, I mean I don't believe the claim that a god exists, unless it is proven to me, which is the default and logical position to take regarding any claim.

Of course, proving a negative is an exercise in futility.
 
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FlyingTeaPot

Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
When a man and a woman love each other, the man may get his penis in the woman´s vagina.

Afterwards a baby is born! and if this baby never believes in God or ceases to do so, he will from then on exist as an atheist.

Atheist can also happen when an atheist bites a regular person. If this regular person dies from the bite, he may become a zombie atheist, which would carry both the zombie virus and the atheist virus.

Beware from those! :eek:

Yeah, I bit my girlfriend when she said she wouldn't go out with me. Now she and I are inseparable zombie atheists!
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!

how can one see the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe and say, god is a real estate agent on this teenie tiny blue planet?
 
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Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
However FTP, an intellectually honest atheist will then admit that such a proof logically cannot exist nor can a proof that no god exists, therefore they would be agnostic or perhaps apatheistic.

No, an intellectually honest atheist will admit that some nebulous vague god-concept could possibly exist maybe. Then they'll admit that there is no reason to believe that such a thing exists, just like there is no reason to believe that leprechauns exist, and so consider him/herself an atheist since he/she lacks the belief that a god exists. Then admitting that it's impossible to know with certainty whether or not a god exists, he/she will also consider him/herself an agnostic as well as an atheist.
 

FlyingTeaPot

Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
No, an intellectually honest atheist will admit that some nebulous vague god-concept could possibly exist maybe. Then they'll admit that there is no reason to believe that such a thing exists, just like there is no reason to believe that leprechauns exist, and so consider him/herself an atheist since he/she lacks the belief that a god exists. Then admitting that it's impossible to know with certainty whether or not a god exists, he/she will also consider him/herself an agnostic as well as an atheist.

This. :yes:
 

idea

Question Everything
Incorrect, I deny the paradox of infinite intelligence.

As to greater, well. Do you have a way to accurately measure of intelligence besides yourself, idea?

Intelligence can be measured by what it creates, it's power of influence, and it's ability to love.
 

idea

Question Everything
You could, but it's a worthless argument for intelligence. See, for example, here.

from you link:

"Therefore, God either did not create these organisms or is not omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent."

I do not believe that God created everything (or that the scriptures teach such).... as you can see from my other posts... (#32 on this thread)
 
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outhouse

Atheistically
How can there be so many humans that are so blind to the splender and maginifecence and epicness and wonder of this universe

this goes for theist and atheist as well. It has nothing to do with religion.

You may be confusing the beauty of nature with the beauty of myth.



and say there is no inteligence behind it's design?

That is education, knowledge, logic and reason talking. There is not a single shred of evidence that there even needs to a a designer. let alone intelligent.



It's like they never took Biology or a Physics class!

why would you even say that?, they teach the exact opposite of most every one of your statements.



Mirror mirror on the wall.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Intelligence can be measured by what it creates, it's power of influence, and it's ability to love.

in that case you add everything up and you have 0

to date nothing can be attributed to a magic sky daddy everyone defines differently ONLY based on the geographic location they were born.


Everything you have stated man does
 
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