We Never Know
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Uhmm.... In many of the forum threads.. unless I missed something.
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Why do disagreements always turn into arguements
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Uhmm.... In many of the forum threads.. unless I missed something.
OK you don't like the evolution theory theory. How about this... the internet brings out the worst in people. I've seen a certain person on this forum say regularly that she deliberately baits people because she gets a kick out of watching their reaction. And on the other side some people take things too seriously or get their feelings hurt too easily. Then there's plain old misunderstandings.
We Never Know
No Slack
Evolution theory isn't about believe/belief. Its about survival.
"I've seen a certain person on this forum say regularly that she deliberately baits people because she gets a kick out of watching their reaction.
Unfortunately there's more than one here that way.
I was talking about my theory that evolution is the reason for the arguments. Hence the double theory.
We Never Know
No Slack
I still think ego and self pity is the resson for most arguements.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I disagree with quite a few people here, some who I consider online friends, and it doesn't always lead to arguments. Sometimes it's things I don't really care enough about, sometimes it's just having different views of the world, and my views regarding transgender things aren't that popular among the younger crowd, I've even disagreed that online friendships can be just as good as real-life friendships. But this hasn't turned into an argument.
We Never Know
No Slack
I repeat "Uhmm.... In many of the forum threads.. unless I missed something."
Now if you disagree that doesn't happen, then lets argue about it
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yeah, you have missed the many times where it doesn't become an arguement. Disagreements certainly do not always turn into arguments.I repeat "Uhmm.... In many of the forum threads.. unless I missed something."
Now if you disagree that doesn't happen, then lets argue about it
And keep in mind, there is a difference between debating and arguing.
We Never Know
No Slack
"And keep in mind, there is a difference between debating and arguing."
Ah yes. This grasshopper I know.
You might be right
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Which makes it the more odd to claim disagreements always become arguments.
We Never Know
No Slack
Some do. To deny that is being blind.
I think there is a whole heap of unresolved baggage that people like to pretend isn’t there and then get all offended/affronted when someone reacts to that baggage.
This doesn’t take place in a vacuum, the “we are a society” meme comes to my mind immediately.
Let’s take your two examples as…well examples of what I mean.
Example number one. Your position that an atheist shouldn’t be antagonising a believer is something I agree with and indeed vice versa. It’s not a really a disagreement that merits argumentation. Life’s too short and all that.
But let’s look at the history of this “conflict” really.
Lets even ignore for a second the various religious conflicts and subjugation of folks by believers (various religions) throughout the thousands of years of human history.
I seem to recall very vividly a time not too long ago where certain individuals of a religion outright demonised atheists as satanic baby eating devil worshippers.
A weirdly specific accusation that apparently has made its way into the conspiracy theory circles online today (QAnon.)
Seriously though. Why is that practically a cliche?
Anyway. Whilst I would obviously agree that such people do not speak on behalf of all believers. I’d imagine it’s a little bit hard not to have some built up resentment if you grew up hearing about such things happening to your friends, family or even experiencing that yourself firsthand.
I’d be curious to know just how many 80s kids knew a person who was demonised for liking DnD. Or were demonised themselves. I’d wager some on this very forum has their own tales to tell in that regard.
For my generation it was liking Rockstar Games and Harry Potter. My mother came perilously close to such a mindset, thankfully, I was able to talk her down. Plus that whole thing was a bit less harsh in Aus lol
Not sure what is supposedly turning kids to Satan these days, but I can only hope it’s something equally fun.
Example number 2.
How would you respond if I went up to you and said, so I know you’re in a mixed race couple but I don’t agree with that lifestyle? It’s not like I hate you or anything. I just disagree with your choice. Why are you accusing me of hating?
Like honestly? Is that seriously a viewpoint that is worth dismissing as “well like that’s just your opinion, man?”
Honestly? No real need to push back, examine and ask for a bit more accountability? Really? And indeed one can point to various interpretations from their religious beliefs to justify that “disagreement”unfortunately.
But hey, it’s just their beliefs, right? It’s not like that position directly affects me, a mixed race person. I’m sure I could find a way to get along with someone who “disagrees” that my parents should have gotten married. /s
Never mind the obvious homophobic (and indeed racist) culture and abhorrent discrimination I can point to in modern history, not even ancient stuff. But things that even my dumb young self can remember witnessing not long ago.
Sorry but there are some disagreements that warrant more pushback. And hey presto, arguments will arise.
“We are a society” and whether we like it or not, we all have a collected sordid history we want desperately to ignore. How we address that history seems to impact our present and will likely impact our future.
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Secret Chief
Very strong language
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No, it's knowing people better than that. It would be highly unusual in a world where always statements regarding the behaviors of people can generally and comfortable be dismissed as opinion rather than fact, that this area would get an always when that just so isn't the case. Of course there are numerous variables to consider, but your claim is closer to what I've heard some claim in the LGBT community, and that is people will accept, tolerate and change their mind when it's something actually a part if their life (often in regards to coming out to family and prospects of acceptance or rejection). But that's just not how it works and having a queer in their life doesn't mean they have a change of heart.
That is because they are people, amd dying and having a need for water and food and air is about the only things we all, absolutely everyone, does go through with. Everything else, it's psych 101 that it's very much a mixed bag of results when it comes to people, and even the best manipulators out there do occasionally get one upped, thwarted and baulked by people catching on to them.
How are you defining "argument".
The argument is what I am here for. And I think this is the right room.
They don't.
Although with some posters....
I'd just like to point out you did just post this in general debates, which is inherently argumentative. Other areas of the forums are not and in fact limit that sort of thing... because they are about learning and sharing mostly. Learning about human diversity is cool. And if everything is the same (that is, agrees) then we don't learn anything new. Oi that sounds super boring... aaaah!
Although... it occurs to me you may have a somewhat different perception of what constitutes an "argument" than I do. Wouldn't be the first time. Hmm.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Until you learn some basic economy we'll always have arguments about the value of capitalism.
Bless your heart.