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Why do feminist women still expect men to pay for a date?

Milton Platt

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Why is it that feminist women who claim to believe in gender equality still often expect men to pay for their dinner, even though they have already declared themselves to be entirely independent from men and absolutely not in need of any assistance from men, particularly with regard to finances? If they believe that they are truly and entirely not in need of men, and are entirely self-sufficient, why are they still demanding the man covers their expenses? Or, has the "feminist" movement, which originally focused on gender equality, now turned into a "female superiority" movement in which women who have now declared that they are equal to and not in any way in need of men, also demand special treatment from men?

I think it would depend upon who asked whom out on the date. I would certainly not ask a woman out and then expect her to pay for the meal/movie/drinks. I also think feminism has very little to do with who pays on a date, and more about things like equal rights under the law and equal pay for equal work. You are certainly free to demand that your female companions always pay their own way on dates. But I suspect you will be a very lonely guy.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Why is it that feminist women who claim to believe in gender equality still often expect men to pay for their dinner, even though they have already declared themselves to be entirely independent from men and absolutely not in need of any assistance from men, particularly with regard to finances? If they believe that they are truly and entirely not in need of men, and are entirely self-sufficient, why are they still demanding the man covers their expenses? Or, has the "feminist" movement, which originally focused on gender equality, now turned into a "female superiority" movement in which women who have now declared that they are equal to and not in any way in need of men, also demand special treatment from men?
I split checks with the one and only girl I dated with and who is now my wife.
:innocent:
 
Well perhaps not all of us would like to live 1950s style raising 12 kids on one wage, feeding them nothing but wild rabbit stew and using ferrets to hunt just to survive the winter?

Cost of living has only increased, minimum wage does not always reflect that and hasn't for a while now. If the powers that be allowed people not to live in poverty on one wage (and sometimes even two!) perhaps the job market wouldn't be as competitive as it is now. Since ya know, people need to live and eat. And this idea that one wage was enough to support a household at some point in time is vehemently denied by pretty much any working class family who remembers the 40s. At least the ones round here. And our standard of living isn't exactly third world.

I mean when you have working class and farmer brat Baby Boomers recollect their childhood memories of living in one income households during these Leave it to Beaver-esque times, it does deflate that whole "a simpler wholesome time" sentiment when they consistently tell you that they not only went without, but they lived much like the Depression Era. Where they scrimped and saved and salvaged every single solitary ounce of food, money and electricity just to get to the end of the week.

The 1950s? That's when this crap started. You miss the point because women do want it like the 1950s in the sense they don't have to do crap and drain the man's resources...except now they do it while working. They want it all while still expecting the guy to take care of them.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Why is it that feminist women who claim to believe in gender equality still often expect men to pay for their dinner, even though they have already declared themselves to be entirely independent from men and absolutely not in need of any assistance from men, particularly with regard to finances? If they believe that they are truly and entirely not in need of men, and are entirely self-sufficient, why are they still demanding the man covers their expenses? Or, has the "feminist" movement, which originally focused on gender equality, now turned into a "female superiority" movement in which women who have now declared that they are equal to and not in any way in need of men, also demand special treatment from men?

I'd say that naturally, men like to pay and women like to be treated.
 
I'd say that naturally, men like to pay and women like to be treated.

define naturally. Basing your choice in a relationship because some makes the amount of money you want/hope they do is conditioning.
naturally, men didnt need money 300 years ago and marriage wasnt because you dated to choose a mate.
as a matter of fact, the whole idea of relationships today is probably a conditioned responce. you are told you need to date,marry and have kids to be a member of society,sane and normal. 40 years old? still a virgin? society has said that means you are probably mentally retarded or lazy or something
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I usually and normally pay my own way. But if someone is offering to pay for me then it's just being rude to turn down a gift.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The 1950s? That's when this crap started. You miss the point because women do want it like the 1950s in the sense they don't have to do crap and drain the man's resources...except now they do it while working. They want it all while still expecting the guy to take care of them.
Yeah, explain the Great Depression. I don't think a single woman alive who actually remembers the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, etc wants to go back to a time when they were chained to the ****ing oven.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The 1950s? That's when this crap started. You miss the point because women do want it like the 1950s in the sense they don't have to do crap and drain the man's resources...except now they do it while working. They want it all while still expecting the guy to take care of them.

You date the wrong women.
 
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