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Why do Humans care about anything ?

It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

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Massimo2002 said:
What's stopping humans from doing nothing and becoming nothing ?
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Most have urges and desires. Most want to have pleasant experiences (the upper levels of Maslow's pyramid) and mitigate unpleasant ones (the base).
Massimo2002 said:
what if someone feels that life is better without doing those things [have friends, show empathy, help people]?
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Then they won't do them.
Massimo2002 said:
Why does the survival instinct exist ?
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It evolved through a series of undirected genetic changes and was selected by nature for obvious reasons. Those with the best survival instincts will live to reproduce more than those lacking them.
Massimo2002 said:
How do you know that evolution is true ?
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We observe biological evolution to occur in populations over generations and have good fossil and genetic evidence that the tree of life has been evolving over geological time.

Everything evolves. Galaxies, stars, planets, and mountains evolve, just not biologically. Elements evolve in stars. Books yellow and their pages fade. Iron rusts. This is material evolution.

Individuals evolve as they grow, develop, learn, and age. This is biological evolution also, but not in the Darwinian sense.

And populations evolve, which IS biological evolution in the Darwinian sense.

Cultures evolve. Technology evolves. Languages evolve. Religions evolve. Everything evolves.
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

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Massimo2002 said:
What's stopping humans from doing nothing and becoming nothing ?
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Not knowing you I won't trust you with this information. Life is fragile, and I have my own plans for it. In a way it is I who am stopping humans from doing nothing and from becoming nothing, so you may blame me. I have people that I blame though: such as mothers. They are the worst culprits.
 
Massimo2002

Massimo2002

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It Aint Necessarily So said:
Most have urges and desires. Most want to have pleasant experiences (the upper levels of Maslow's pyramid) and mitigate unpleasant ones (the base).

Then they won't do them.

It evolved through a series of undirected genetic changes and was selected by nature for obvious reasons. Those with the best survival instincts will live to reproduce more than those lacking them.

We observe biological evolution to occur in populations over generations and have good fossil and genetic evidence that the tree of life has been evolving over geological time.

Everything evolves. Galaxies, stars, planets, and mountains evolve, just not biologically. Elements evolve in stars. Books yellow and their pages fade. Iron rusts. This is material evolution.

Individuals evolve as they grow, develop, learn, and age. This is biological evolution also, but not in the Darwinian sense.

And populations evolve, which IS biological evolution in the Darwinian sense.

Cultures evolve. Technology evolves. Languages evolve. Religions evolve. Everything evolves.
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But the evolution you are talking about is undirected and I disagree with that I think a creator created humanity.
 
It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

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Massimo2002 said:
the evolution you are talking about is undirected
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Yes.
Massimo2002 said:
I disagree with that I think a creator created humanity.
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OK, but that doesn't matter to critically thinking empiricists if you can't make a compelling argument in support of that belief. What you believe isn't interesting or useful to such a person.

Knowledge is, and apart from mathematics and logic, which are generated by pure reason divorced from experience, knowledge is only acquired empirically.

Even if you are correct, why is that important or useful to know. Maybe man and the rest of the tree of life including extinct forms is the creation of some super-human alien civilization that visited earth billions of years ago to perpetrate a great deception on man to make it look as if life evolved in an undirected manner from a universal ancestor, how do you use that knowledge to your advantage? Or if a god like the deist god set it all in motion intelligently designed, there is no pragmatic value in knowing that or believing it.

That's a statement of apatheism - the "I don't care" part of "I don't know if gods exist or not, can't know, and don't need to know, so I don't think about it anymore."

But I understand that you (likely) believe in a god that issues commandments and punishes in the afterlife. If that were true, that would be important to know. But there's insufficient evidence that it is true to believe it or even seriously consider it once one understands that the claim is unfalsifiable and the question unanswerable. One is left with some form of Pascal's Wager, where belief is based in just-in-case thinking.
 
☆Dreamwind☆

☆Dreamwind☆

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Because it's part of our natural make up to care. It's far worse when we don't. We're not the only creatures on this world to care about something other then ourselves, and we are intersocial.
 
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