Why do humans have genes for full body hair?

[Subduction Zone]

I haven't run away from the topic. Wrong about what? You haven't even defined what is right.

Because you keep running away.

Do you understand what power is yet? What is power in your own words?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I see, so you use that term to set up a strawman argument.

I thought there was Newton gravity, Einstein gravity, Starobinsky (R+R^2) gravity, Gauss–Bonnet gravity, f(R) gravity, and Lovelock theory of gravity. That sounds like more than one theory of gravity.

I'm not a physicist, but I can use Google and search "alternative theories of gravity".

I guess it is Newtonism, Einsteinism, Starobinskyism, Gauss-Bonnetism and Lovelockism.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

In general, we do. Mutations create diversity within gene pools and then genetic drift and natural selection work on them from there. Mutations are commonplace and have multiple potential causes.

I agree. I would add recombination and immigration or outcrossing to the list of sources of variation and include sexual selection as another selection mechanism that drives evolution.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The topic is how much damage a round has and why. I was trying to go over the high school level physics that you do not understand.

There are something like 20,000,000 AR-15 type rifles in the US. Ammo is relatively cheap and easy to obtain. You can buy rounds for as little as .35 each. You can crank out 45 rounds a minute or use a bump stock to get 100's of rounds a minute. They are easy to obtain. Apparently anyone can get ahold of one. Lots of high capacity magazines available. I would say that adds elements to the level of danger presented by that rifle.

Of course, I don't have years of experience examining armed criminal actions or thousands of hours examining bullet wounds using the latest advanced technology like MRI's to know whether the .223 that killed 15 people made them less dead than if they had been shot with a larger caliber weapon.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There are something like 20,000,000 AR-15 type rifles in the US. Ammo is relatively cheap and easy to obtain. You can buy rounds for as little as .35 each. You can crank out 45 rounds a minute or use a bump stock to get 100's of rounds a minute. They are easy to obtain. Apparently anyone can get ahold of one. Lots of high capacity magazines available. I would say that adds elements to the level of danger presented by that rifle.

Of course, I don't have years of experience examining armed criminal actions or thousands of hours examining bullet wounds using the latest advanced technology like MRI's to know whether the .223 that killed 15 people made them less dead than if they had been shot with a larger caliber weapon.

And then there is the physics of what happens when a high velocity bullet hits someone. A bullet hole from a high powered .223 round is nothing like a hole from a .22 LR. That is why the term "high powered" actually has some meaning.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I agree. I would add recombination and immigration or outcrossing to the list of sources of variation and include sexual selection as another selection mechanism that drives evolution.

No scientist is ignoring those other factors. But for some odd reason that idea of new information coming from mutations, and that is the source of brand new traits, drives some creationists nuts.

 

[rational experiences]

If humans have full body hair. We do.

It's just not hairy.

Science says I believe the nature of life as cells changes in environmental conditions that made them change.

Maybe we were hairier humans like elephant mammoths were. Maybe the heavens seasons changed so did our cellular bodies.

If those types of reasons own change its not science.

Unless science says I'm worried if I changed heavens mass by my fixed technology constant life biology will change again.

Yet I don't think they worry about it like we all do.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

No scientist is ignoring those other factors. But for some odd reason that idea of new information coming from mutations, and that is the source of brand new traits, drives some creationists nuts.

I agree. I find it all amusing to see how far they have to bend to force something through a literal interpretation.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

And then there is the physics of what happens when a high velocity bullet hits someone. A bullet hole from a high powered .223 round is nothing like a hole from a .22 LR. That is why the term "high powered" actually has some meaning.

Reading through these posts, I kept thinking that a briefcase nuke is an incredibly useful means of killing huge numbers of people really quickly. But they are not so much a threat as an AR-15, because there just aren't 20 million of them in the hands of the public. There shouldn't be any nukes in the hands of the public.

Accessibility and popularity are further factors in accessing the danger of a weapon. The AR-15 is a high powered rifle in large, accessible quantity with plenty of accessories to render it more dangerous for use against civilians. There is a reason it is the weapon of choice for use in mass shootings. It was the weapon of choice of Kyle Rittenhouse. A prime example of how easy and untrained person that shouldn't have had access to one was able to successfully use it to kill and injure people with it.

Considering, I support the 2nd Amendment and own some of these, my post is ironic and some may find it hypocritical. But it is honest and I use them for recreational shooting. Of course, the problem isn't that they are in the hands of responsible people. The problem is that it is easy for irresponsible, the criminal and the mentally ill to get them too.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Reading through these posts, I kept thinking that a briefcase nuke is an incredibly useful means of killing huge numbers of people really quickly. But they are not so much a threat as an AR-15, because there just aren't 20 million of them in the hands of the public. There shouldn't be any nukes in the hands of the public.

Accessibility and popularity are further factors in accessing the danger of a weapon. The AR-15 is a high powered rifle in large, accessible quantity with plenty of accessories to render it more dangerous for use against civilians. There is a reason it is the weapon of choice for use in mass shootings. It was the weapon of choice of Kyle Rittenhouse. A prime example of how easy and untrained person that shouldn't have had access to one was able to successfully use it to kill and injure people with it.

Considering, I support the 2nd Amendment and own some of these, my post is ironic and some may find it hypocritical. But it is honest and I use them for recreational shooting. Of course, the problem isn't that they are in the hands of responsible people. The problem is that it is easy for irresponsible, the criminal and the mentally ill to get them too.

Unfortunately the NRA became psychotic starting int eh 70's. I am old enough to have dong to an NRA taught gun safety class. They used to be the good guys.


Reasonable restrictions may be the answer. We know what we are doing now is not working.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

If Adam and Eve not only had all the genes for full body hair and these genes were expressed in the beginning. How has there been enough time for those genes to have evolved to be silenced in 5,000 years?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Unfortunately the NRA became psychotic starting int eh 70's. I am old enough to have dong to an NRA taught gun safety class. They used to be the good guys.


Reasonable restrictions may be the answer. We know what we are doing now is not working.

My father was a member. He was worried that our 2nd Amendment rights would be taken away. I maintained that it wouldn't happen.

He's been gone 35 years and now it is easier to get guns than when he passed. You can even get them in different colors and accessorize.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It seems as if a rate of evolution that would be reflected in the deactivation of the genes for full body hair in such a short time isn't supported by the facts.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes, but not under the umbrella of “Darwinism”..............

Because there is no "Darwinism."

that is my point, there are different models of evolution We need terms like Darwinism and neutralism to differentiate one model forma the other

It's all evolution.

You are making a big deal out of something very small

Dude, I just asked you what Darwinism is.

The fact is that someone how the term “Darwinist” (unlike newtonist) made it in to the diccionaries and in to our languages, and even scholars use this term in books and papers………….. therefore there is nothing inappropriate about using the term

It's used by creationists as a derogatory term. I've seen it time and time again.

We don't label ourselves by the names of the people who discovered the scientific theories we accept. That's silly. And really, my point. Creationists throw it out there, thinking it's some kind of derogatory term to mock people who accept the scientific theory they themselves can't bring themselves to accept due to their religious beliefs.

 

[leroy]

Because there is no "Darwinism."

says who?

Dude, I just asked you what Darwinism is.


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And I answered, I told what is the meaning of that word, but you can always take your favorite diccionary and see the definition by yourself.

I honestly don’t see your point. It is not my fault that you personally find the term offensive, as I said only fanatic evolutionists from internet think that way, the term is widely available in books and papers that have nothing to do with “creationism”

 

[SkepticThinker]

says who?

Dude, I just asked you what Darwinism is.



And I answered, I told what is the meaning of that word, but you can always take your favorite diccionary and see the definition by yourself.

I honestly don’t see your point. It is not my fault that you personally find the term offensive, as I said only fanatic evolutionists from internet think that way, the term is widely available in books and papers that have nothing to do with “creationism”

Maybe try reading my entire post instead of just one line.

I didn't say anything about finding the term offensive.

And now you're going on about "fanatic evolutionists" whatever those are. Good grief.

 

[leroy]

Maybe try reading my entire post instead of just one line.

I didn't say anything about finding the term offensive.

And now you're going on about "fanatic evolutionists" whatever those are. Good grief.

Again I don’t see your point, care to explain?

i told you what I mean with darwinist , do you have anything else to add?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Again I don’t see your point, care to explain?

i told you what I mean with darwinist , do you have anything else to add?

Pretty sure I made my point.
Let me know when you roll out the next creationist buzzword.

So far, we've got:
-Darwinist
-fanatic evolutionist

 

[metis]

I agree. I would add recombination and immigration or outcrossing to the list of sources of variation and include sexual selection as another selection mechanism that drives evolution.

I have often called this "cultural selection" in my anthro course because it is a part of natural selection.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Because you keep running away.

Do you understand what power is yet? What is power in your own words?

pow·er
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noun

1. 1.
   the ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality.
   "the power of speech"
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Similar:
   ability
   
   capacity
   capability
   
   potential
   
   potentiality
   
   faculty
   
   property
   
   competence
   
   competency
   
   
   Opposite:
   inability
   
   incapacity
   
   
   
2. 2.
   the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.
   "she had me under her power"

verb

1. 1.
   supply (a device) with mechanical or electrical energy.
   "the car is powered by a fuel-injected 3.0-liter engine"
2. 2.
   move or travel with great speed or force.
   "they powered past the dock toward the mouth of the creek"

So a bullet moving with greater speed and force than another has more power.