Why do humans not like reptiles?

[Shadow Wolf]

Every book, movie, game and so on they're always the bad guys

Pete's Dragon, Dragonheart, Game of Thrones, Warcraft (good and bad in this world), Never Ending Story, His Majesty's Dragon, Eragon, The Dragon Keeper, I'll just stop here.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

People use lizards as fishing bait? Not that I go fishing much, but I always thought worms or minnows were used for bait.

Lizard guts, chicken livers, moth caterpillars, kernels of corn, there are many different things used, and it depends on what you're fishing for. But many anglers use artificial bait, and I used to have my own pack of artificial salamanders for bass fishing.

 

[SabahTheLoner]

You should read more dragon mythology. Asian, African and First Nation cultures like lizards, snakes, turtles and dragons (in African myth the world is even held up from the water by a rainbow serpent). They only get a truly bad rep in the ancient European and Middle Eastern myths and even then there are exceptions.

 

[Silverscale derg]

Pete's Dragon, Dragonheart, Game of Thrones, Warcraft (good and bad in this world), Never Ending Story, His Majesty's Dragon, Eragon, The Dragon Keeper, I'll just stop here.

Beowulf, skyrim, dragonslayer, dragon hunter, game of thrones (has dragon killing), diablo, dragon age, the witcher,...the list goes on. If there's a dragon in any media it's most likely going to be a slaying one

 

[Silverscale derg]

Lizard guts, chicken livers, moth caterpillars, kernels of corn, there are many different things used, and it depends on what you're fishing for. But many anglers use artificial bait, and I used to have my own pack of artificial salamanders for bass fishing.

Lizards don't have much guts to use and that's cruel anyways. You can always use plastic bait because it's less cruel. Salamanders I don't mind because they're anfibs and live in the water anyways, so do minnows...but stop with the poor lizards

 

[Silverscale derg]

People use lizards as fishing bait? Not that I go fishing much, but I always thought worms or minnows were used for bait.

Sometimes fish are used to feed pet reptiles, such as turtles. I was a pet store once and saw one of the workers take a mouse out of one enclosure and put it into an enclosure with a snake, which quickly devoured the poor mouse.

There are a couple of lines from Star Trek: Enterprise which you might find interesting.

"Someone once said that dealing with reptilians is like bargaining with the sun. You make no progress, and you come away burned."

"Which brings us to the reptilians, and Commander Dolim. There's a story about him. I don't know if it's true, I'd like to believe it isn't. His daughter gave birth to a son. He had a deformity in his right arm, not life-threatening but enough to preclude his ever joining the military. Commander Dolim had his own grandson poisoned."

Here they are, in all their glory:

reptiles are treated poorly you know. No live bait should be used. Fish aren't that bright and will bite stuff that moves so just put bark on a hook and it will work.

 

[Silverscale derg]

Oh ye of little faith. Bass generally do not eat lizards, but they attack the Spring lizards as a defense (some times they hit so hard it almost jerks the rod out of your hand). If you hook them through the gut they'll die and the fish will not see them as a threat. If you hook them in the tail they keep swimming and the fish instinctively respond to the perceived threat.

BTW, are you saying it's okay for the lizards to eat the unborn fish?

I have faith...Bass in captivaty have been fed lizards live. I've seen anoles fed to them. If you hook them through the gut they won't die instantly and they will be in pain. Through the tail is worse because then you drown the poor lizard and that's just cruel. The water isn't always to their cold blooded standards being they need 90f or higher to be comfortable so they can die of shock too...No need to use live lizards, or any lizards. There is plastic bait hell even plastic lizards if you so want that shape but reguardless it's pointless. I'm saying it's okay because eggs are good. Most reptiles enjoy eggs. They aren't unborn if they aren't fertilized

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Beowulf, skyrim, dragonslayer, dragon hunter, game of thrones (has dragon killing), diablo, dragon age, the witcher,...the list goes on. If there's a dragon in any media it's most likely going to be a slaying one

Not all the dragons in Skyrim are evil, killing things off is kind of Game of Thrones thing (and do you really expect the Lannisters to not prepare for a fight against dragons?), and there are no dragons in the Diablo series.
And, often enough, dragons are considered wise beings who possess great knowledge and wisdom. And, of course, they are more commonly viewed as positive symbols in Chinese lore.

so just put bark on a hook and it will work.

That won't work. For one, like nearly every other creature they have a typical diet, and another fish will often and usually check something out before eating it, test it out, move it around, and it's why you don't set the hook as soon as the bobber/pole tip jiggles. You'd get that initial jiggle with a piece of bark, but nothing else. And it's going to be even less effective if you are trying to catch bottom feeders. And it's also not just movement, but certain movements. With artificial lures, the idea is to get the lure to mimic the natural behavior of what the lure is shaped after.

 

[BSM1]

I have faith...Bass in captivaty have been fed lizards live. I've seen anoles fed to them. If you hook them through the gut they won't die instantly and they will be in pain. Through the tail is worse because then you drown the poor lizard and that's just cruel. The water isn't always to their cold blooded standards being they need 90f or higher to be comfortable so they can die of shock too...No need to use live lizards, or any lizards. There is plastic bait hell even plastic lizards if you so want that shape but reguardless it's pointless. I'm saying it's okay because eggs are good. Most reptiles enjoy eggs. They aren't unborn if they aren't fertilized

You're missing the point widely. But rather than beat a dead equine, lizards are amphibs so they usually don't drown. Also, Spring Lizards are found in running creeks so they thrive in cold water. And a fish only guards a nest when the eggs are fertilized and viable, so your beloved lizards are baby killers and should be wiped from the face of the earth.

 

[Silverscale derg]

You're missing the point widely. But rather than beat a dead equine, lizards are amphibs so they usually don't drown. Also, Spring Lizards are found in running creeks so they thrive in cold water. And a fish only guards a nest when the eggs are fertilized and viable, so your beloved lizards are baby killers and should be wiped from the face of the earth.

Lizards are not anfibs they are reptiles...big difference. Salamanders are anfibs you need to get informed. I eat fish and I enjoy eating fish. I wouldn't mind eating their eggs either.

 

[Silverscale derg]

Not all the dragons in Skyrim are evil, killing things off is kind of Game of Thrones thing (and do you really expect the Lannisters to not prepare for a fight against dragons?), and there are no dragons in the Diablo series.
And, often enough, dragons are considered wise beings who possess great knowledge and wisdom. And, of course, they are more commonly viewed as positive symbols in Chinese lore.

That won't work. For one, like nearly every other creature they have a typical diet, and another fish will often and usually check something out before eating it, test it out, move it around, and it's why you don't set the hook as soon as the bobber/pole tip jiggles. You'd get that initial jiggle with a piece of bark, but nothing else. And it's going to be even less effective if you are trying to catch bottom feeders. And it's also not just movement, but certain movements. With artificial lures, the idea is to get the lure to mimic the natural behavior of what the lure is shaped after.

Dragons of skyrim got a few things right. No dragon in skyrim is evil. Alduin was good and sure he wanted to eat the world but look at the wars, conflict, poverty and so on...who would not want the world eaten to start a new? If you call the "god" flood from the bible good then why call us dragons doing the same thing evil? I never watched it but I have been sent a scene of a dragon killing. Western ones want to kill us

I know it will be less effective but the life of a poor lizard...which is a reptile unlike what some person on here thinks...he thinks they're anfibs. Okay fine artificial lures then but if anything is used as live bait use a minnow or something that's a fish so they don't drown because they can't. In the end I want humans to not hurt lizards. Humans kill lizards then complain about insects then they use chemicals on them which makes the living ones toxic for the remaining lizards to eat causing them to have to eat each other just to live. Humans treat lizards so harshly and for no reason. When in doubt make it into the view of humans. Say "if you did ____ to a human what would the response be?"

 

[idav]

We dragons..

Pics or it didn't happen.

 

[BSM1]

Lizards are not anfibs they are reptiles...big difference. Salamanders are anfibs you need to get informed. I eat fish and I enjoy eating fish. I wouldn't mind eating their eggs either.

Lizards are not anfibs they are reptiles...big difference. Salamanders are anfibs you need to get informed. I eat fish and I enjoy eating fish. I wouldn't mind eating their eggs either.

Actually you are right. The fishing bait commonly known as "spring lizards" is really a salamander, not a lizard at all. This makes it definitely an amphibian.

So you're saying it's alright to put a fish through a painful death to satisfy your urges but it's not okay to use a live lizard to catch that fish?

 

[Silverscale derg]

Pics or it didn't happen.

Oh one of the rules of the internet. Let me tell you what I tell everyone else who asks that. I'm a dragon, I breath fire, My climate is warm. My computer alone must be replaced every so often because of smoke damage, my camera being clear plastic melts within the first day...you expect me to get a picture?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If you call the "god" flood from the bible good

I see the god of the Bible as being one of the most sadistic, cruel, barbaric savages in all of fiction.

I never watched it but I have been sent a scene of a dragon killing.

If you are referring to Game of Thrones, the Khaleesi Daenerys Targaryen views her three dragons as her children, and the only children she will ever have. As for the one who was killed, Viserion, he was killed by the undead Night King (who resembles a lich of sorts), and the undead are coming to kill all who live. As for Dany's enemies (primarily the Lannisters), of course they are going to try to kill the dragons because they are at war against each other, and the land of Westeros was brought to its knees when the first Aegon Targaryen, along with his sisters, rode his dragons, gained the name Aegon the Conqueror, and unified the Seven Kingdoms and established the Iron Throne as the central governance of the Seven Kingdoms. From Valaryia, it is said that many dragons flew above in the skies, and were not viewed as enemies to be killed. This is where the house of Targaryen hails, and their banner is black with a red three-headed dragon.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

... when we have the time we can craft the gold into many shapes to fit out need... but if someone wanted some for whatever reason all they'd have to do is ask...

So hey dragon, ol' buddy, ol' pal... how's about it? Can I have some gold?

 

[Kuzcotopia]

This is a featured thread.

Just let that sink in.

 

[Silverscale derg]

Actually you are right. The fishing bait commonly known as "spring lizards" is really a salamander, not a lizard at all. This makes it definitely an amphibian.

So you're saying it's alright to put a fish through a painful death to satisfy your urges but it's not okay to use a live lizard to catch that fish?

Don't call it a lizard then. I'm not that caring to anfibs. Anfibs are imposters. Sure use those salamanders then because they breathe underwater. I don't like the concept of live bait to begin with.

Yeah if you use any live bait use a fellow fish then sure use it. I don't fish with a fishing line so I don't use any bait. It should be for food but some fish for sport.

 

[Silverscale derg]

So hey dragon, ol' buddy, ol' pal... how's about it? Can I have some gold?

Walk into my cave and answer a riddle then I will give you gold

 

[Silverscale derg]

This is a featured thread.

Just let that sink in.

just shows how much people like me