Why do I keep going to xian churches then do nothing?

[Reverend Rick]

Please excuse the intrusion, I will try to phrase this post into a respectful question or two.

Is it possible to ask what will happen in this church and what Christians will do in a DIR?

Is it a good idea to be carrying a knife where violence could be elevated to the use of deadly force?

Lastly, is it a possibility that a Christian may be carrying a gun and may decide it is justified to use it if a knife is employed?

 

[blackout]

Please excuse the intrusion, I will try to phrase this post into a respectful question or two.

Is it possible to ask what will happen in this church and what Christians will do in a DIR?

Is it a good idea to be carrying a knife where violence could be elevated to the use of deadly force?

Lastly, is it a possibility that a Christian may be carrying a gun and may decide it is justified to use it if a knife is employed?

Did he mention a knife?

Where? I definitely missed that.

 

[blackout]

[SIZE=-1] It's ok though, if they lay a finger on me I got my trusty knife. 3.5 inch flip out blade for self-defense. As long as they don't start beating me up I won't even let them know I have it.


[/SIZE]

Ahh yes. there it is.

The plan just gets better and better.

Make a scene in someone else's territory,
trespass as a 'mad' (angry/crazy) person
easily perceived as a threat
get everyone's adrenaline up
and bring a knife,
in case someone there
hurts YOU.

Brilliant.

I'm recommending professional help.

not like you'll care.

 

[blackout]

Originally Posted by jasonwill2
[SIZE=-1] It's ok though, if they lay a finger on me I got my trusty knife. 3.5 inch flip out blade for self-defense. As long as they don't start beating me up I won't even let them know I have it.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]

You know, most of those "them" people
are only your enemy in your own mind.

There may be little kids right nearby,
and you are posing THEM a possible danger.

You seem like your own worst enemy already anyway.

The knife is a better way to ensure arrest at any rate.
[/SIZE]

 

[Iti oj]

Why the hate? Hate only brings us down. Their is nothing selfempowering about you mindset.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Please excuse the intrusion, I will try to phrase this post into a respectful question or two.

Is it possible to ask what will happen in this church and what Christians will do in a DIR?

Is it a good idea to be carrying a knife where violence could be elevated to the use of deadly force?

Lastly, is it a possibility that a Christian may be carrying a gun and may decide it is justified to use it if a knife is employed?

No, it's not a good idea to carry a knife to such a farce. Expecting violence will increase the chances of pulling it; which will increase the chances of the church calling the police and the guy going to jail when otherwise they probably would have just seen him rude and immature and let him run along. Hell, if he done it and ran the church probably saw it as proof that the agents of Satan are weak against the presence of the church of Jesus Christ and his disciples. Which is two strikes on making us look bad.
As for the gun, well if he actually pulled the knife I suppose it would be possible if someone has one. But since he mentioned shouting and running there probably wouldn't be time to pull it.

 

[Mcshane22]

[SIZE=-1]

You know, most of those "them" people
are only your enemy in your own mind.
[/SIZE]

How very true this is . Great statement :bow:

 

[Adramelek]

Ok, I do admit that my suggestion to JW2 was over the top, indeed it would only serve as a form of simple self-gratification. I am reminded here of when I was 17-years old; I had a short lived falling back on christianity and decided to get baptized. The baptism took place at Eastwood Baptised Church on a Sunday morning. When the minister dunked me in the baptismal water and I arose from the water I felt spiritually defiled, I looked out at the congregation of more than 200 sheeple and I scowled at them. I then walked up the steps out of the water into the changing room, took of the white robe, dried off, put my clothes back on and walked out of the church. I was physically and spiritually ill for days afterwards.

It was during that time that my renouncement of the christian faith became complete and I became fully aware of my true Satanic or Dark nature, and thus my journey on the Left-Hand Path was well underway.

For ever in the Black Flame of Set!
/Adramelek\

 

[Mcshane22]

Ok, I do admit that my suggestion to JW2 was over the top, indeed it would only serve as a form of simple self-gratification. I am reminded here of when I was 17-years old; I had a short lived falling back on christianity and decided to get baptized. The baptism took place at Eastwood Baptised Church on a Sunday morning. When the minister dunked me in the baptismal water and I arose from the water I felt spiritually defiled, I looked out at the congregation of more than 200 sheeple and I scowled at them. I then walked up the steps out of the water into the changing room, took of the white robe, dried off, put my clothes back on and walked out of the church. I was physically and spiritually ill for days afterwards.

It was during that time that my renouncement of the christian faith became complete and I became fully aware of my true Satanic or Dark nature, and thus my journey on the Left-Hand Path was well underway.

For ever in the Black Flame of Set!
/Adramelek\

Question for understanding. Do you feel more like your id is compelled to darkness and opposition and your ego is non existent? Or is your Ego and your id both compelled to darkness an opposition


Example. For me, I feel as my id is disposed to opposition not darkness just opposition ; how ever my ego is so strong to appear normal and less opposed so I can fit in with those around me, but I am continually lying to my self.

 

[Adramelek]

Question for understanding. Do you feel more like your id is compelled to darkness and opposition and your ego is non existent? Or is your Ego and your id both compelled to darkness an opposition.

For me as a Setian, gratification of the ego is simply not enough, my way is about Self-directed Self-deification. Also, the Id must always be kept in check else it can very well consume you. For as the Magician evolves and becomes stronger so does the self, emotions, the Will, the ego, the Id, hence all aspects of Being. Self-Evolution is a double-edged sword, and requires intense self-introspection and discipline, this is why we warn people that Black Magic can be dangerous.

Xeper.
/Adramelek\

 

[Mcshane22]

For me as a Setian, gratification of the ego is simply not enough, my way is about Self-directed Self-deification. Also, the Id must always be kept in check else it can very well consume you. For as the Magician evolves and becomes stronger so does the self, emotions, the Will, the ego, the Id, hence all aspects of Being. Self-Evolution is a double-edged sword, and requires intense self-introspection and discipline, this is why we warn people that Black Magic can be dangerous.

Xeper.
/Adramelek\

Good analysis And much thanks.


"The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free."
(Baruch Spinoza / 1632-1677)

 

[Mcshane22]

Also, the Id must always be kept in check else it can very well consume you.

Xeper.
/Adramelek\

Just for a laugh, Anakin Skywalker thought he could control it as well and he was a Jedi

 

[Iti oj]

Just sleep with Christian girls and get over it, some of your angst doesn't sound very healthy so I would do it sooner rather than later.

Actually I just noticed this was a DIR. Please disregard my last statement.

i think your reply was perfect. albeit very freudian

 

[Adramelek]

Just for a laugh, Anakin Skywalker thought he could control it as well and he was a Jedi

Actually when you think about it Darth Vader did gain very good control over his Id. It was the Emperor Darth Sidious who did not, he allowed it to consume himself utterly.

May the Dark Side of the Force be with you.
/Adramelek\

 

[Mcshane22]

Actually when you think about it Darth Vader did gain very good control over his Id. It was the Emperor Darth Sidious who did not, he allowed it to consume himself utterly.

May the Dark Side of the Force be with you.
/Adramelek\

Yeah that he did good point new question, did he have a eternal desire for the dark side or was he driven to it by unfortunate circumstances

 

[Adramelek]

]Yeah that he did good point new question, did he have a eternal desire for the dark side or was he driven to it by unfortunate circumstances[/quote]

Uh, how the hell would I know?

/Adramelek\

 

[Mcshane22]

Uh, how the hell would I know?

/Adramelek\

That's just me I have a way of over analyzing movies and character development within them. Deductive reasoning says he has something different that alows him not to be consumed by the dark side like dark sidious. Which I theorize that it is the difference in their motives that they went to that side

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I just wonder what happened. Two days later and no update makes me wonder if it wasn't the victories or liberating experience he thought it may have been.

 

[ScottySatan]

It could be a good ritual. I definitely wouldn't carry a weapon. I'd go with a good sized group of people. Some of them very large. Everyone dress sharp. Whisper amongst yourselves, don't shout. Act like you're being secretive. Don't make it obvious that you're trying to be disruptive. One person imitating the pastor's movements might be fun.

Prepare very carefullly beforehand to make sure you're not breaking the law. And if they ask you to leave, you must leave. I might even ask the pastor's permission days in advance: say what you are and that you want to learn something about their faith. He might be delighted.

Either way, I wouldn't do it myself. I wouldn't want my face in the news for it, especially not in a place like West Virginia.

 

[jasonwill2]

CAN EVERYONE JUST **** OFF FOR A SECOND?!?

Agh! Ok, first, I do not have internet at home. Second, especially to ultraviolet who kept spamming this topic, I DID NOTHING ILLEGAL.

I don't know what country YOU are from, but I am in America. We have something called the First Amendment, you might of heard of it maybe. I have the full right to say WHATEVER I want in public as long as I am not screaming it in people's ears (and even then we can during protests) or cursing. We also have something called the Second Amendment, you might of heard of that too. It's the right to bear arms.

Also I CAN'T LEGALLY BE ARRESTED for what I did unless I refused to leave when told. It's a ******* public building that those silly xians BEG you to go into.


I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE Ultraviolet about going to that school if I wanted a Highschool Education. I left public schooling so I wouldn't have to go into a school full of fights and bullies; the Highschool I was in before wouldn't take me back, I was out of district, so it was either Parkersburg High School, infested with all kinds of problems, or private school.

So I really didn't have any options. I HAD to go to those ignorant Pentecostal's school for THREE TERRIFYING YEARS, hearing about the evils of homosexuals and listen to some of the worst hypocrisy ever. At least the Fundamentals I spiritually grew up with were, for the most part, absent of hypocrisy.

Alas, if you must know I'm a dropout that is taking his G.E.D. test on the 25th, over 6 months after dropping out. I'm not some punk 'teenage satanist' that doesn't get it; every time I have asked Satan for help like I would Yahweh Satan throws me back and says "You help yourself, there is no hope but what you make!" and every time I have found strength in ME being able to make my path. Without Satanism I would be a whiny little kid still waiting for someone to save me.

It wasn't any "spiritual" thing, but a MUNDANE THING. I wanted to break the taboo of SPEAKING MY MIND in public. I told my shrink just an hour ago what happened, and he saw nothing wrong with it, and he's a fundy Christian.


Know, do you guys want to know what went down?

Ok, I went into a Church of Christ, the Baptist Church didn't have a Sunday Night service. I caught the tail end of the sermon about Jesus's crucifixion I explained to the minister about how it was bad at that school for 3 years, that I found out I was as Satanist, and i just needed to honestly speak my mind. At one point I mentioned about how 'we are born into sin' and he took that as equaling I was born a Satanist. I ignored that. The part I told him that I needed to say was "I am a Satanist, and I am proud" I said that to him directly and not others and explained it was TO GET OVER THE FEAR. After all was said and done he said he hoped I got the right guidence.

Before I took off for home, I had the door open, looking in, and ONLY SAID,

"In Nomine Satana, I am a Satanist, and I am proud. Shemhamforash." I waited a second, and the minsiter came out of the auditorium towards me. I backed up with my left hand up, devil horns in the sky, and turned around to go home. I then yelled "SHEMHAMFORASH! I AM A SATANIST, AND I AM PROUD! AVE SATANA! HAIL SATAN!" as I crossed the parking lot and came to the road.

I got home just ******* fine thank you.

Lastly, back at ultraviolet again, just because I used the pronoun "them" does not indicate ANY kind of mentality. It was meant to refer to whoever was at the Church. I have never been there before, so I had no idea WHO would be there. "Them" was the only correct pronoun to use as far as I know in that sentence structure, unless you wanted me to use a more exact noun?

Seriously, if your going to rip on me and my workings of lesser magic that is reflected onto myself to overcome fear, then get out, please. I was trembling with fear when I talked to that minister, I was sick of not being able to say "Hail Satan" in public when I see all these people openly talk about Jesus or whatever. It made me feel oppressed and I just wanted to be able to not feel the fear of being proud of what I am openly. I've never been one to "hide" myself.

And if I suffer for it, screw them! I'll be what I am and be honest about it!

So if anyone is wondering, I came out just fine, and more assertive. If anyone wants to pick a bone with me over this, just get out, NOW. I'm ******* fine. Also would someone seriously jump me for this in a place so public? If people put their hands on me and started beating me I have the LEGAL, and SATANIC right to defend myself.


Really, how is praising Satan in a Church "stereotypical"? It's gutsy, and daring. That was the point; to overcome my irrational fear! And you know what? Nothing happened! Nothing was going to happen, unless you who are all criticizing me are willing to admit that Christians are a bunch of violent brutes that attack people on sight for saying things they don't like! Seriously! As for my knife, I take that thing EVERYWHERE. I walk all around time with my laptop and don't want to be robbed. Not that it is likely, but always just encase.

So all is fine, I might do it again sometime, didn't get the stares and "gasp" reactions I wanted for the sense of empowerment. This was my ultimate Black Mass, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SHOCK!!!

HAIL SATAN!