Massimo2002
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And why is life so much more harder without money or with little money ? Is this done on purpose ?
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Why do most people care about money ?
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Massimo2002
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Why won't humans use other things to trade besides money ?
Massimo2002
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Why can't one achieve all of that without money ?
Because a currency guarantees a coincidence of wants between trading parties.
There's nothing stopping you from attempting to barter for goods. But unless you have a treasure trove of desirable stuff it's going to be much easier to just pay for goods with money.
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Think about it. People won't accept a sack of potatoes for a hammer unless they actually want potatoes.
Money is convenient, can be exchanged at agreed upon value, for pretty much anything.
One can, but in today's complex, multicultural, specialized society, an agreed upon unit of power is useful.
One can, of course, ditch society and go live in a jungle village or commune somewhere. Such coöperative, socialist societies see to their members' security and prosperity and might not depend on a formal unit of value, but options there would be few and a primitive lifestyle generally wouldn't fly in Edmonton.
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It's nothing more than a currency of trade, just like anything else. You trade your time and energy for money, and you trade money for things you want or need.
I think humans used to have a system of trade without money, where they would just barter one thing for another, but as @Valjean already mentioned, there has to be a demand for the item you wish to barter, or you're just stuck with the item without the ability to purchase what you want or need.
I think humans used to have a system of trade without money, where they would just barter one thing for another, but as @Valjean already mentioned, there has to be a demand for the item you wish to barter, or you're just stuck with the item without the ability to purchase what you want or need.
Massimo2002
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A primitive lifestyle wouldn't fly in any city not just Edmonton but the problem with city people in general is that they think that they are better than everyone who lives outside of a city just because they are "Modern" and "Progressive".
I think you'll find that societies and religions everywhere find their own, peculiar values to be particularly meritorious.
Country folk look down on city slickers, and vice versa. Christians, Muslims, and Hindus see each other as deluded. Americans, Russians, and Chinese all feel they live in the best country; and fundamentalists everywhere know theirs is the one true religion.
Money makes rhe acquisition of "needed" goods easier than barter.
With barter you have to find someone who wants what you have to trade.
With money, everyone wants it.
Without money one cannot buy what one needs.
I think the purpose is convenience.
anotherneil
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We can; it's called bartering.
anotherneil
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It can be achieved without money, but money is far more efficient for achieving this.
HonestJoe
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It isn't an issue of money specifically but resources and assets more generally. Most extremely wealthy people don't hold a large proportion of their assets in cash but in investments and property. The perceived value of those assets can be measured in terms of money but that's really just an man-made scale than a real thing.
Because to live is Hard. Humans have built societies and technologies to ease the struggle for life. Take these away and life is hard again. Money is just one of the tools we created to ease life and it works well. Take it away and life is hard again.
Massimo2002
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Why is life hard in the first place ?
anotherneil
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Eventually the dependency on money could disappear, but not before the dependency on human labor is eliminated by replacing it with automation, robotics, and other advancements in technology; we're not there, yet, but if cooler heads prevail and we don't set off world-wide thermonuclear annihilation, and stick to advancing truth and science rather than religion and political agendas, I'm confident we can get there.
If we get there, crime will taper off, wars will be a thing of the past, homelessness, poverty, lack of necessary resource, etc. will be things of the past.
If we get there, crime will taper off, wars will be a thing of the past, homelessness, poverty, lack of necessary resource, etc. will be things of the past.
Life is the ability to do things separate from other things. This is difficult. It requires the ability to maintain an energy source, energy conversion. It requires the ability to move, so one can collect the energy source of use the energy source. It requires the ability to make decisions. It requires a want to live. This makes life an enemy to all things including other life especially when resources are minimal. This is why life is Hard. Life is only a temporary condition. Eventually all things will no longer be alive.
Massimo2002
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I suppose that is possible but for the most part that is a Fantasy utopia.