Al-Fatihah
Muslim
Well, then, I guess Islam's no better, holier, more enlightened, closer to God, right, than any other religion.
Response: The evidence shows otherwise.
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Well, then, I guess Islam's no better, holier, more enlightened, closer to God, right, than any other religion.
A face with a palm covering it. Then look in the mirror.
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Not for you to judge now is it. You don't know me at all, but are quick to make judgment's with certainty.
I have known you a day or two. Him? over 4 years now.
Oh, that would be the evidence of all the terrorism, violence and dehumanization perpetrated on women and non-Muslims by... people who profess to be doing these things in the name of Islam. Got it!Response: The evidence shows otherwise.
Here's a fine of example of the "Beaver Cleaver Argument." Definition: "Just you wait tip my daddy gets home! he'll fix you!"Oh, as a slap in the face to my irritation about sarcastic smiley faces. I see. Well, let's say that you'll be wishing for such a lenient gesture on the Day of Judgement, whether you believe in it.... or not.
Oh, that would be the evidence of all the terrorism, violence and dehumanization perpetrated on women and non-Muslims by... people who profess to be doing these things in the name of Islam. Got it!
Uh huh. I've got my checkbook out -- ready to write you a big check for that lovely swamp land you're selling.Response: Which cannot be condoned by any teaching of Islam, while the terrorism and dehumanization of women in the name of Islam resulting from the oppression, forceful imperialism, and media manipulation by the Western government (ran by Non-Muslims) is well-documented. Thanks for the confirmation.
Like what good beneficial can a theocracy have?
History has shown its the worst set of rule ever made. With democracy people can decide whats for the best. Equality for men and female, everyone has rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion.
Not saying all support this. But Islamic countries in middle east seem to be for theocracy, Sharia Laws etc.
What is your conception of democracy in IslamI am a Muslim and I can say what works for you might not work for others
Each society can decide on their own what is best for them. So to suggest that everyone should follow one system of governance is very illogical
You have to understand that the western version of democracy does not differentiate between what is allowed and what is forbidden as long as the society is ok with it and Islam makes it clear that a Muslim must follow what Alllah commands and avoids what He forbids.
So in short, we have have our own form of "democracy". It is just not identical to yours
I agree with the previous post, but I'm not sure how you can square the claim above with the previous comment copied below. You negated democracy in Islamic society and then say you have your own form of democracy. That does not compute. Calling a theocracy a democracy isn't especially honest.I am a Muslim and I can say what works for you might not work for others
Each society can decide on their own what is best for them. So to suggest that everyone should follow one system of governance is very illogical
You have to understand that the western version of democracy does not differentiate between what is allowed and what is forbidden as long as the society is ok with it and Islam makes it clear that a Muslim must follow what Alllah commands and avoids what He forbids.
So in short, we have have our own form of "democracy". It is just not identical to yours
Democracy means equality for all. It means one person one vote. In an islamic society this goes against islamic teachings. Firstly men have dominion over woman in islam. So allowing woman to have equal say in government is un-islamic. Also religious minorities must never be allowed to have equal rights in an islamic society. So a non-believer having an equal say in government is un-islamic. Religious minorities must feel themselves to be oppressed in an islamic society. So for these two reasons islam is incomparable with democracy and thats why all attempts to have true democracy in islamic societies are doomed to failure.
I agree with the previous post, but I'm not sure how you can square the claim above with the previous comment copied below. You negated democracy in Islamic society and then say you have your own form of democracy. That does not compute. Calling a theocracy a democracy isn't especially honest.
Democracy requires an educated electorate and will not work in countries where Muslims are the majority because the majority of Muslims are illiterate. It is estimated some 800 million Muslims are illiterate.
The only successful governments in IslamicIslamic countries have been dictatorships.
I still haven't met a Muslim who hates democracy. I have met one that would rather live under a Bible and Quran based theocracy (and don't over complicate this one, he is not an "off with their heads" lunatic), but he doesn't hate democracy and he respects democracy where it is practiced. I've seen a few on TV who hate democracy and want only violent tyranny, but they tend to break so many Islamic laws that I don't consider them Muslim.
Hitler was elected democratically and look at what he caused. Certainly Germans were not "educated electorate" when they elected a blood-sucker who caused the deaths of 10's of millions of people