Why do R C fear debate more than other Christians

[Greatest I am]

It is not intelligent design in the typical sense of the meaning- it is not a "scientific theory" to be taught alongside or opposed to evolutionary biology. It is a philosophical and theological position- that the foundation of being is thought/Word/Logos/Meaning.

Does he hold that the universe exists because God desires it be so, and that God is, by whatever means, the Creator? Of course, that is dogmatically binding and central to the Christian Faith. "I believe in one God the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and of earth".

Sure sounds like I D to me.
It also did to the reporter and his editor. You will have to argue with them.


Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Lol; why would God have been destroyed be the Big Bang?

Because He is completely absent.

Seen Him doing anything lately.
Seen anyone other than man having dominion over the earth?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Why do you start these threads if, in your opinion, the only option for any religion is to "admit God was destroyed by the big bang"? Surely, we don't have any scientific evidence for that.

We do not have any scientific evidence for God either.

Since we do not have God here, my theory is stronger.

Regards
DL

 

[Breathe]

Because He is completely absent.

Seen Him doing anything lately.
Seen anyone other than man having dominion over the earth?

Regards
DL

Makes sense, but I disagree with you. I see God in everything, so to speak.
Who says one would be able to see God, though?

And having dominion over the earth, define your "dominion". As far as I can see, we're still pretty reliant on nature. Oil from fossils, food from the earth, water from lakes... Though I get what you mean.

 

[McBell]

Makes sense, but I disagree with you. I see God in everything, so to speak.
Who says one would be able to see God, though?

And having dominion over the earth, define your "dominion". As far as I can see, we're still pretty reliant on nature. Oil from fossils, food from the earth, water from lakes... Though I get what you mean.

Define "God"

Not a dictionary definition, but how you define "God".

 

[Breathe]

Define "God"

Not a dictionary definition, but how you define "God".

[COP OUT]If I can define it, it's not God.[/COP OUT]

 

[McBell]

[COP OUT]If I can define it, it's not God.[/COP OUT]

ROTFLMAO
Fair enough.
Thank you for your honesty.

 

[Breathe]

Very welcome.

I'll get back to you when I find out what I believe.

 

[Greatest I am]

Makes sense, but I disagree with you. I see God in everything, so to speak.
Who says one would be able to see God, though?

And having dominion over the earth, define your "dominion". As far as I can see, we're still pretty reliant on nature. Oil from fossils, food from the earth, water from lakes... Though I get what you mean.

If you get it then I need not define it further than two words, partial control.

Regards
DL

 

[Breathe]

If you get it then I need not define it further than two words, partial control.

Regards
DL

Sounds good to me!

 

[Chookna]

It is possibly a natural apprehensiveness that they develop from getting slammed by Bible believers regularly, it is not surprising though as there cult beliefs are very easy to debunk Biblically and also historically, Their veneration and worship of the Virgin Mary ( I will use the word worship as that is exactly what they practice ) is the best subject I have found to debate Catholics on as it can easily be proven its unbiblical, not extrabiblical as Catholics would agree to this, being a "Sacred Tradition"
The very obvious dominant perception is that they worship Mary. In fact, on a pragmatic basis they worship Mary far more than they worship even the Lord Jesus Christ and far more than they worship the true and living God. It is idolatry in the clearest form. And to deal with this we need only really to do two things biblically. One is to see what the Bible says about idolatry, and the other is to see what the Bible actually says about Mary. And then we will clearly understand that they have invented a goddess to worship who has no relationship to the true Mary, the mother of Jesus revealed in Scripture, the historical Mary.
The entire concoction is blasphemous. That is to say it is an assault on God. It is a full-blown assault on God. It is an assault on God the Father. It is an assault on God the Holy Spirit. And it is an assault on God the Son.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Why do R C fear debate more than other Christians?

I was born R C but my respect for my own has been steadily eroded by the fact that I have been ejected, from most R C forums that I have found and joined. Sometimes with no reason given and once simply because of my name and avatar.

The tolerance that I find in these R C sites is basically non existent and even before posting anything I look at various topic and see that the closed ones are mostly those that go towards debate.
In looking at various posters that are banned I see that some are banned for fairly non controversial subjects and that few debates on the morals of scripture are allowed.

I do tend to get in some trouble at some Fundamental sites but see some tolerance in most of them.
R C sites though are what I would call fully intolerant.

Do R C fear debate that much that their moderators must be so intolerant that no decent from the status quo dogma is allowed?

Why do they show such fear of normal debate?

Is it the same mind set that made the old Church brand scientists as heretics if their science did not back up the Church view, or is the fear of debate they show from some other source?

Regards
DL

Dude, serious RCs have sick debating kung foo. Remember, as a group they've been thinking and writing about this stuff for a loooooong time. Read Aquinas and Augustine and see how their apologetics hold up. I'm still an atheist, but I respect the effort and thought that Roman Catholicism has put into defending their faith intellectually.

 

[Greatest I am]

It is possibly a natural apprehensiveness that they develop from getting slammed by Bible believers regularly, it is not surprising though as there cult beliefs are very easy to debunk Biblically and also historically, Their veneration and worship of the Virgin Mary ( I will use the word worship as that is exactly what they practice ) is the best subject I have found to debate Catholics on as it can easily be proven its unbiblical, not extrabiblical as Catholics would agree to this, being a "Sacred Tradition"
The very obvious dominant perception is that they worship Mary. In fact, on a pragmatic basis they worship Mary far more than they worship even the Lord Jesus Christ and far more than they worship the true and living God. It is idolatry in the clearest form. And to deal with this we need only really to do two things biblically. One is to see what the Bible says about idolatry, and the other is to see what the Bible actually says about Mary. And then we will clearly understand that they have invented a goddess to worship who has no relationship to the true Mary, the mother of Jesus revealed in Scripture, the historical Mary.
The entire concoction is blasphemous. That is to say it is an assault on God. It is a full-blown assault on God. It is an assault on God the Father. It is an assault on God the Holy Spirit. And it is an assault on God the Son.

Yes. That is just as silly as believing in a three headed God who would have his son killed instead of forgiving men outright.
The whole idea of God using a human to reproduce is sacrilegious. That would be to God, an act of bestiality. Yuk.

All Christians should rethink that ugly notion.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Dude, serious RCs have sick debating kung foo. Remember, as a group they've been thinking and writing about this stuff for a loooooong time. Read Aquinas and Augustine and see how their apologetics hold up. I'm still an atheist, but I respect the effort and thought that Roman Catholicism has put into defending their faith intellectually.

Intellectually?

Talking snakes and donkeys. Real intellectual that is.

Regards
DL

 

[sojourner]

Catholic means universal. How does that compute with insular?

Regards
DL

It's Universal-In-A-Box -- kind of like "Janitor-In-A-Drum."
But they are making progress -- and so are other expressions that are trying to establish ties with them.