Why do religious people beleive the author of the scripts but ?

[Suave]

Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern times claims to be Gods messenger ?

Our genetic code's creator has left this mathematical pattern in our genetic code conveying to me the symbol of an Egyptian triangle as well as the number 37 embedded in our genetic code.

Eight of the canonical amino acids can be sufficiently defined by the composition of their codon's first and second base nucleotides. The nucleon sum of these amino acids' side chains is 333 (=37 * 3 squared), the sun of their block nucleons (basic core structure) is 592 (=37 * 4 squared), and the sum of their total nucleons is 925 (=37 * 5 squared ). With 37 factored out, this results in 3 squared + 4 squared + 5 squared, which is representative of an Egyptian triangle.

Reference: https://www.mentealternativa.com/ma...ow-signal-of-the-terrestrial-genetic-code.pdf

Wow! signal of the terrestrial genetic code.
shCherbak, Vladimir , Makukov, Maxim
Icarus, 2013, 224(1), 228-242
DOI: 10.1016/j.icarus.2013.02.017
Cite as: arXiv:1303.6739 [q-biT]
(or arXiv:1303.6739v4 [q-biT] for this version)


I suspect the significance of 37 as a factor of the Wow! signal of the terrestrial genetic code might be linked to the Gematria number value of 37 in Genesis 1:1.

The 3 main words (God, the heaven, the earth) in Hebrew have a gematria numeric value of 777 (111x7), ". which is divisible by 37.
The numeric value of the entire verse is 2701 which is divisible by 37.
We may now proceed to finding the number 37 interlaced in the first verse of the Bible. We can do this by discovering words or groups of words with number values evenly divisible by 37, e.g. the 3 main words (“God” + ”the heaven” + ”the earth” = 777 = 21x37), the 5 first words (“In the beginning” + “created” + “God” + “*” + “the heaven” = 1998 = 54x37), or the last two words separately (“and” = 407 = 11x37 and “the earth” = 296 = 8x37)

You shall have no gods before the Creator of the heavens and Earth, life's Creator.

 

[rational experiences]

Says a man theist using sciences man's invention calculus.

Putting himself before O earths owned natural place of two bodies.

O earth.
It's heavens.

By two more....two natural holy spiritual human.parents. not science not theists by using calculus.

Calculus imposed not by God O held mass.
Not by gas as mass.
Not by water as mass.

By a man applying calculus.

Built one design. Then reacted earths mass by calculus who introduced extra radiation that changed natural origin genesis

Writes a book stating I did it myself. I introduced change to DNA by calculus extra radiation. Then lies says maths is a God man.

Origin fusion God gone out of the dusts as original support of life.

Removed both holy bodies then congratulates his inventor.

 

[CG Didymus]

I think any writing should be taken as the writer meant it to be taken. For example, I think you didn't mean this question to be a joke, therefore I took it seriously. Bible doesn't tell the flood was just a exaggeration or fictional. Therefore I think it should be taken literally. And I think world has abundantly evidence for it to be true story.

This part of my post is why I think it is important that religious people ease up on being so dead set on theirs being literally true.

If one religion takes its Scriptures too literally and absolutely from God and true, then what do they believe about the Scriptures of one of the other religions?

If believing theirs to the point that it causes them to almost automatically regard the Scriptures of every other religion as false, then all we're going to have is religious people arguing and fighting with each other.

I understand why some sects of some religions take their Scriptures as literally true, but, as is the case with the Bible, then how far are you going to take it as being literally true? Did creation happen a few thousand years ago? And did the flood just happen a few thousand years ago? After the flood it was only Noah and his family and the animals that were on the ark the only humans and animals left alive? For me, since I'm not a Christian, and don't feel obligated to believe it literally, I think it is more likely that the stories were myth.

 

[rational experiences]

Humans first.

Just like immaculate is first but when sun blasted it ....it remained immaculate but is no longer the original immaculate. Balanced immaculate.

We did not turn into Noah human with three adult family pairs.

Human first
Animal first.

Highest selves healthy first.

Story I will thesis why life changed balances.

Positive and negative.

No the negative. No in breath Ah never existed either. Ah is only positive.

So a story is just a teaching.

Science modern life to thinking. Modern scientist said bible is not science is correct. A teaching.

I think better today mind oxygenated than looking back as the past theist man irradiated mind.

You went through your dark ages he says. Behaviours were truly bad and evil. Your scientific content mind aware ruined.

So I tell you today science is wrong.

All looking back terms.

Pretty basic.

So a natural human has to say brother all scientists are first wrong. Even medical is. As your intense studies enlarged review by machines supports lifes destruction.

As healing was human aware innate balanced in nature first.

Oh no he says I research healing.

But brother machines fallout caused irradiation owns why cancer sickness exists. What are you looking for?

Healing he says.

So is your occult brother.

He says light in space void vacuum not radiation fallout owns life support.

I want it. For my machine status on ground. Natural light is in vacuum.

Why?

To heal my machine replaced constant.

Why?

Because any reactions end. I want no reaction just opened. I want activation only. Which in reality is still a reaction. So no vacuum void law is theoried to cause.

As end the reaction means no further.

Life he says never ends.

Possessed thinking.

So we say okay. You say water that remains constant to own life goes away and you want it to remain constant? When it is constant just lessened.

Why?

As we do keep water naturally first constant. Suffer irradiation mass evaporation causes...water gets replaced by ice melt as if it never left. Had nothing whatsoever to do with bio survival.

Water in maths thesis remains constant.

Ground life has water instant but loss of water also.

Origin science thesis water by mass natural seal was constant in the earth stone before science changed it. Science today I want every state to be origin as if science as yet never existed.

Outright lying.

I want it put back science says. The water mass itself.

Brother you invented it's removal. You are not God the creator you cannot order it put back.

Reality the mind of the scientist is possessed.

Natural humans have to agree science is just a liar.

For ground to own natural light is no voiding vacuum holding.

No natural light would even exist after that moment.

Theisms. I want. Takes pretend past natural visionary advice into I want to force change. First was not any theory. First in theism was pretended effects in theism is first.

Nuclear power plant model controlled cooling as ground state no longer did.

Science wants the old pyramid practice. So also wants the calculus held ground water mass to exist. Which is in fact ground flooding by water volume.

So he wants it put back first.

To think correctly naturally. Versus to theory.
Missing words.

He needs it put back as it first was. A theism today as knowledge.

AI does no allow the theist mind to word express naturally. Acceptance of advised.

He is fixed in I want only by forced transmitted back to designer. Human..

 

[Valjean]

For example because I think people are too evil and stupid to make the Bible on their own. If the Bible would be just from the men, atheist would understand it without "contradictions". I believe because I see that Bible God is correct, knows well, is wise, righteous, good and loving. It would be too difficult for me to believe humans could have done Bible without God. But more than that, I want to be loyal (faithful) to Him, because I see that He is more than great.

But the Bible God is cruel, capricious, and vindictive. If people acted like Bible God they'd be condemned as psychopaths.
The Bible does have contradictions -- lots of them; as well as edits, additions, deletions, &c. Moreover, the various books were selected, from many writings, by a certain sect with their own agenda.

 

[Valjean]

Why does anyone disagree on anything?

A thousand different reasons -- but you dodge the question.
Well evidenced things are universally agreed on or acknowledged. Poorly evidenced things are not agreed on, and generate myriad different opinions.
How many different opinions are there about God and religion?

 

[Valjean]

Because you don't have the holy Spirit.

Well, that explains it, then.
Evidently the Holy Spirit removes reason and logic. Remind me: Why is having the Holy Spirit desirable?

 

[Valjean]

The relevance is that you stating religious people and the scientific method has conflict etc etc are all just false because the person who propagated the scientific method himself was a theist.

There is no conflict.

That makes no logical sense.

 

[firedragon]

That makes no logical sense.

It makes no logical sense to say that religious people have a conflict with the scientific method.

 

[74x12]

Well, that explains it, then.
Evidently the Holy Spirit removes reason and logic. Remind me: Why is having the Holy Spirit desirable?

Well not because it takes away your ability to reason or use logic. On the contrary it allows you to understand spiritual things and understand God. We humans have logic/reason and God isn't against that. But God has his own thoughts that are beyond us. So if we want to understand God we need the access to the mind of God. If you can access the mind of God; then you'll begin to understand his thoughts. This is one thing the holy Spirit allows you to do.

 

[Sheldon]

We humans have logic/reason and God isn't against that.

Logic is a human creation, it is just a method of reasoning that adheres to strict principles of validation. However all reasoning is subject to the principles of logic, theistic or otherwise. Whether one acknowledges this is irrelevant.

But God has his own thoughts that are beyond us.

If you can access the mind of God; then you'll begin to understand his thoughts.

Which is it?

 

[1213]

But the Bible God is cruel, capricious, and vindictive. If people acted like Bible God they'd be condemned as psychopaths.
The Bible does have contradictions -- lots of them; as well as edits, additions, deletions, &c. Moreover, the various books were selected, from many writings, by a certain sect with their own agenda.

Sorry, I disagree with you, I don't think there is any good reason to believe what you say.

 

[1213]

There is no evidence to support a global flood, none.

If the flood happened as told in the Bible, we would have as evidence at least these:
1. modern continents
2. Oil, gas and coal fields
3. Marine fossils on high mountains
4. Vast sediment formations
5. Orogenic mountains
6 Stories of the event

If we don't have those, then I agree that we don't have evidence.

 

[Sheldon]

Valjean
But the Bible God is cruel, capricious, and vindictive. If people acted like Bible God they'd be condemned as psychopaths.
The Bible does have contradictions -- lots of them; as well as edits, additions, deletions, &c. Moreover, the various books were selected, from many writings, by a certain sect with their own agenda.

Sorry, I disagree with you, I don't think there is any good reason to believe what you say.

You're kidding right? Have you even read the bible? A flood that caused a global genocide of every living thing outside of one small wooden boat? Cursing all homo sapiens and all their descendants because two of them ate some fruit it placed directly in harms way? Torturing a newborn baby to death over 7 days, because it was angered that King David's lover conceived the baby in an adulterous relationship?

Ethnic cleansing it encourage and endorsed, slavery, sex trafficking women and young girl prisoners, and on and on and on...

Were the deity depicted a human it would surpass even the most egregiously "evil" examples of humanity we have.

Where do I as an atheist get my morals from, is a question I am often asked by theists, well not from the bible, or the barbaric deity depicted in it, or from bronze age patriarchal societies.

It would be more "humane" to toss a coin.

 

[Valjean]

It makes no logical sense to say that religious people have a conflict with the scientific method.

Not always a conflict, just incompatible epistemic approaches and methodologies, leading to entirely different conclusions.
Religion is not a research method; science is. Historically, when scientific research has concluded that religious doctrine is wrong, religion has reacted with repression or violence, or circled the wagons, so to speak, and denounced science.

 

[Lain]

A thousand different reasons -- but you dodge the question.
Well evidenced things are universally agreed on or acknowledged. Poorly evidenced things are not agreed on, and generate myriad different opinions.
How many different opinions are there about God and religion?

I would have to give a thousand different answers then. As for how many opinions, I don't know. Part of that depends on the definition.

 

[Valjean]

Well not because it takes away your ability to reason or use logic. On the contrary it allows you to understand spiritual things and understand God.

How? Not through reason.

We humans have logic/reason and God isn't against that. But God has his own thoughts that are beyond us. So if we want to understand God we need the access to the mind of God. If you can access the mind of God; then you'll begin to understand his thoughts. This is one thing the holy Spirit allows you to do.

If we want to understand the mind of God we need tangible facts; measurable, testable data. Whatever method the religious use -- Holy Spirit or whatever -- doesn't seem to yield any consistent results. There is no unity or consistency in religious doctrine.

What is this Holy Spirit? Can it be examined? measured? tested? If not, isn't it only a feeling, or a speculation?

 

[firedragon]

Religion is not a research method; science is.

No one said that. So that's a strawman.

 

[rational experiences]

Just humans innocent spiritual. First.

Two innocent humans who had human sex to own babies. Human firstborn in person. All of us since.

Then human theists. The beginning of man's evils. Theism.

As no other evil existed. Life was natural.

Life with holy God first.

Balanced.

As to begin a story told by humans as hurt humans...we the firstborn babies....hurt humans by God status.

The teaching.

The scientist our destroyer. Brothers who agree to theory against gods presence. Gods holy states. Earth.

Earth and it's heavens.

Evolution of O God in the space womb. Planet earth. It's heavens the answer is evolution first.

Two bodies of one. Both different by status compared by a living human.

Evolution cooling.

Ice the saviour of God newly acquired on earth changed earths nature.. we inherited the holy four that follow the saviour.

Can never not be a human the exact conscious aware just human for humans advice. No other thesis allowed in the argument. Was the human status.

Reason the bible was written for human safety.

Science only practiced by human choice.

The holy Cross story gods cross earth O plus + four seasons....no sacrifice.

Then the false cross owned by human scientists Satanists. The ADD +.

No man can add to God said intelligence. Humans spirituality.

And the detailed witnessed sacrificed attacked human life by science who converted gods earth mass by technology temple pyramid science. Was humans.

If you cannot tell the truth science as chosen science of God then there is no hope for humanity surviving. The same old human history science is a liar theme.

You argue everyday against Satanism old science.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

So why did you ask?

We’re conditioned by our experiences, influences and educations.

...and genes.