Earthling
David Henson
Are you suggesting that, unless someone else had said it before me it can't possibly be true?
I think it's pretty clear that what I was stating was my opinion not a scientific claim.
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Why do science hide the truth?
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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Are you suggesting that, unless someone else had said it before me it can't possibly be true?
I think it's pretty clear that what I was stating was my opinion not a scientific claim.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I'm not suggesting, I'm outright saying. If you say a word means something that is not what the word is actually recognised to mean, you're wrong.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
As you didn't answer my question, as you said the big bang didn't start by two comets colliding together either.
So that is not answer as to how the big bang started,
So what started the big bang ?
Earthling
David Henson
Speculation: the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I'm not playing silly goal post shifting games with you. You said the Big bang was two meteorites or planets colliding (now you're saying comets. Do you even know the difference?) and that is not what the Big Bang was. You also made a demonstrably false claim about the Bible, which you know is false, and are now attempting to obfuscate and distract rather than address.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Which isn't part of the scientific method. Hypothesis is, but hypothesis =/= conjecture.
Earthling
David Henson
I was talking about reality, not methodology.
Shad
Veteran Member
I dont say science always hide truth
But why do science sometimes not tell the full story? can it be because then they would show to the people that we have been fooled for ages? example is Egypt pyramid in Giza, Why do you think they said it was Tutankhamun burial site when it was never found any pharao within the pyramid? can it be because they did not want us to know that egypt 5000-2500 years ago was actually a lot more advanced then we think? because WOW it would be strange that previous times was more advanced then we are today, right?
The Great Pyramids' true purpose has now been revealed - NTD Inspired
That isn't hiding the truth. People are still free to talk or research the topic. The scientific community has declined to entertain the idea further within their community. The idea is decades old and has produced no new evidence. You obviously found the idea without having to fight the silence police from the bureau of scientific correctness.
Speculation is not what describes the 'proposal' of a theory or hypothesis. The proposal is most often based on some existing evidence, but not conclusive, The process over time of falsification by researching and discovering the evidence to support the theory or hypothesis. Falsification is a process that is not proved, and the predictability of the proposal to our physical existence is critical if it is be accepted, but it may be found false if there is objective verifiable evidence found which is contrary to the proposal, and/or it fails to have predictive when applied to our physical existence. An example is the 'steady state universe,' which has been found false, because of sufficient evidence rejecting it.
Once again, you haven't established that the phrase 'trillions and trillions of years ago' even makes sense. Why do you think talking about trillions of years ago makes any sense at all?
Dell
Asteroid insurance?
I dont say science always hide truth
But why do science sometimes not tell the full story? can it be because then they would show to the people that we have been fooled for ages? example is Egypt pyramid in Giza, Why do you think they said it was Tutankhamun burial site when it was never found any pharao within the pyramid? can it be because they did not want us to know that egypt 5000-2500 years ago was actually a lot more advanced then we think? because WOW it would be strange that previous times was more advanced then we are today, right?
The Great Pyramids' true purpose has now been revealed - NTD Inspired
With Science every theory is tested and observed and then repeated until it can be 100% proven. Try as you may to poke holes in a theory, because all scientist and critical thinkers do as well until it's totally accepted. That is what makes science so great!!! If you find error make your case, you'll either be proven wrong or better science with a correct answer. I dont see how you can find fault with science, but only with inaccurate findings..
Your logic is like saying public education hides the truth, but reality it is more an inadequate teaching problem getting students to learn the truth.
I'm asking @Wirey to weigh in on this.I dont say science always hide truth
But why do science sometimes not tell the full story? can it be because then they would show to the people that we have been fooled for ages? example is Egypt pyramid in Giza, Why do you think they said it was Tutankhamun burial site when it was never found any pharao within the pyramid? can it be because they did not want us to know that egypt 5000-2500 years ago was actually a lot more advanced then we think? because WOW it would be strange that previous times was more advanced then we are today, right?
The Great Pyramids' true purpose has now been revealed - NTD Inspired
We ran into "pyramid power" on our old forum.
He'll get a kick out of the linked article, especially the "free wireless electricity".
This isn't quite right.
To be 100% "proven" isn't possible because we cannot know there are no
other circumstances in which another theory could better explain things.
This happened when Newtonian mechanics became a special case of
general relativity. The best we can say about any theory is that after
solid verification, that it is the most "useful" to describe something.
Samantha Rinne
Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
I dont say science always hide truth
But why do science sometimes not tell the full story? can it be because then they would show to the people that we have been fooled for ages? example is Egypt pyramid in Giza, Why do you think they said it was Tutankhamun burial site when it was never found any pharao within the pyramid? can it be because they did not want us to know that egypt 5000-2500 years ago was actually a lot more advanced then we think? because WOW it would be strange that previous times was more advanced then we are today, right?
The Great Pyramids' true purpose has now been revealed - NTD Inspired
You've been reading the same stuff as I have. I don't expect any of the ppl here to agree with either of us (I'm skeptic, including of accepted history). But here's a good place to look if you want a possible idea.
The First Global Nuclear War and a Coverup of historical proportions...
Basically, humans have been caught for millennia in the middle of wars between scientific elites. There's factions that want to destroy humanity (let's call them lizard people, because they seem to have no empathy) and those who typically erase history because of its ability to expose destructive tech (let's call them mystics). The problem with erasing tech is that regular ppl never really get to resolve this problem because they don't get wise to it until it happens. Like maybe replacing nukes with something defensive and nonlethal. When regular ppl get educated, they can have a say in things. However, those elites that don't want humans to destroy themselves have seen too many lynch mobs. They want humans protected from their worst tendencies. And the other group want to oppress and/or replace humans.
That's basically why you're gonna run into ppl who call you crazy. Because (1) people have heard a certain history so many times that even if you say "look, water lines" they're gonna feel like it's crazy, and (2) people actively would rather folks not explore alt history.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Soooo how come there isn't any evidence for any of this stuff?
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Science is never "100% proven".
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
It's not clear that this is even a meaningful question, but whatever, nobody really knows.
Now what? You seem to think the fact that science doesn't know everything is significant (even if you don't know enough to ask the right questions) - why?
Your god-stories are no more believable because science cannot answer every question.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Don't fall for the trap. "Nobody knows" will become "see? So God!" even though that is irrelevant to the actual point, to wit; no one says the Big Bang involved meteorites colliding.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
I get what you're saying, but I actually think it's the "therefore god" that need challenging. Science can't answer every question and, when we get the the BB, we run into the problem of reconciling general relativity with quantum field theory, which means we are into hypotheses, rather than tested theories. I see no point in being coy about that.
It's true that the idea of colliding meteorites causing the big bang shows a truly heroic level of scientific ignorance, but there are things that science cannot answer (yet) and somebody is always going to try to squeeze their deity of choice into the gaps...